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Mr. Freihammer indicated that was correct. The City usually gets a lot more requests than what staff can move around the city and as staff has learned that is done by avolunteer and does affectthe variability. He notedthere is one permanent one on County Road B but the one advantage to moving them is that people get used to them and ignore them, so it usually is good to rotate them with construction projects for cut -through traffic in neighborhoods. Member Mueller indicated when she has reached out to the County before regarding the lack or visibility of speed limit signs on County Road B, as an example, she has been told that there are limitations with the number and type of signs that can be posted and that there has to be certain rights -of -way or distances or whatever and different sign types. She asked if that was accurate and something the City needed to consider for Roseville roads. Mr. Freihammer explained only so many signs can be put up. The City's policy is to make sure there is one speed limit sign every half or quarter mile or some sort of stop intersection. He was not sure what the County's policy is, but speed limit signs cannot be placed close together. Mr. John Kysylyczyn, 3083 Victoria Street, provided background information on the history of his political career and indicated he has taken an interest in this subject. He explained he was opposed to the efforts to adjust the speed limits in the city because he thought it was a complete waste of time and money. He pointed out that he has noticed there is no ticket data. There is data as to the traffic stops, but there is no data as to how many speeding tickets have been written and for what speeds they have been written for. St. Paul disbanded its traffic unit so the idea that the City will have more officers focusing on traffic is false and is actually going in the opposite direction. Roseville has done local enforcement and the outcome of the local enforcement efforts back twenty years ago was that the tickets and the people that were being stopped were the people that lived in the neighborhood. There is this rabbit hole he encouraged the Commission not to go down, which is that slower driving leads to less injury. The problem is not the speed, the problem is the distracted driving, the people that are reading their cellphones while driving down the road and talking on the phone while driving down the road. That is where the real problem lies. He would caution the Commission on studying data on what other cities have done because some cities make decisions that are politically driven, and some cities make decisions that are statistically driven. The cities of Brooklyn Park and Minneapolis are political party -endorsed where a lot of their decisions are based on politics. Shoreview, on the other hand, is not a political party -endorsed city and often times a lot of decisions made there are based on statistics. Another thing he wanted to raise caution about is passing laws that no one follows. That is the scientific versus politics. When you pass laws that no one follows people have atendency of not respecting other laws. Another thing to point out is perhaps Roseville should stop paving local side streets that are four car lanes wide. Perhaps for the next reconstruction phase, quit paving four lane -wide local Page 5 of 7