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VILLAGE OF ROSEVILLE . I.~. InfGrmal meeting of the Village Council Thursday August 30, 1956 8 p.m. _ ~...- 'fo...,5 for the purpGse ø:! a hearing to discuss the Ma;yor I s Police Program Proposal. The following members were present: Salverda, Carlson, Kitts, Hammersten and McGee. The ~of inform~d th~ peepJ,.ê that on March 130t 1956 a motion was made and carriea J.IlStru.ct:LI1g hlJll. to prepare a study of vhe cost of a full time police force and report back. The Mayor also stated that the proposal was made up of his own personal opinions and that he had attempted to analyze other police eperatiens. He alse reported that he has found that section 6-of his proposal, in relation to veterans preference would be illegal. H. Chalupsld of a Legion Post stated that the Post's only objection to the proposal was 8ecti,øn 6 in relation tA veterans preference and now that this J.S cleared up the ~gion wishes to withdraw theJ.r ovjection as they no lenger have an interest in the matter. Jqseph Sisco stated that if the MaYor had consulted the CQunÿil before presenting hJ.s proposal perhaps the large gathering here tonight wouldn t have beeh lecessary. Erwin Peterson, retained ~ the policemen rep9rted that he has made a detailed stu.d;y" of the proposal and J. t has struck him "that the basic reason for the proposed change is to organize an efficient, well trained full time police department. Mr. Peterson then asked the Mayor, It.. Is the depär!ment inefficient, un'trained, and. not en duty 24 hours a day?1t Mayor Kitts said that nothing in his proposal sa;rs that the police departmentts inefficient. The Mayor also said that at a meeting last Tuesday, the council members decided that this meeting was to be scheduled for a hearing for people to voice their opinions on the proposal and not a trial. Mr. Peterson reported that eight out of the twelve members of the police depart- ment are veterans and cannot be gotten rid of. He told of a procedure established for the operation of a civil service police commission set up in section 212, chap- ter 419 of the MSA for the benf.fit of Villages to follow. .Mr. Peterson recomroended that the Council follow this procedure, which is set up to bring police departments out of politi.cs and prevent the police department from becoming a Itpolitical football". Mr. Peterson referred to the articles appearing in the Rose Tribune on August 2, and the St. Paul Dispatch on August 5, in relation to the proposal saying that a number of people became distrubed as the implication was that there is not sufficient police protection at present in the Village. The Mayor then referred to the Chief of Police report of a prior meeting, when the Chief reported that one squad car is on duty 24 hours a da;y and the second car from 6 p.m. until 2 a.m. and that sometimes the hours are ertended beyond when necessary. Warren Brennan was of the opinion that a committee of citizens instead of one man should have composed the proposal. The Mayor again referred to the Minutes of March 13, 1956 when the Council instructed the l'1ayor to make the study and report. George Hamilton of 1171 Ruggles gave thanks to l"Ir. Peterson for his talk and cOmIl1ended the police department for obtaining a professional in their defense. He also stated that if there is question on the qualification of the present police officers, maybe the qual- ifications of the council members shouJ.d alse be looked into. P~kC¿I.l'ir,tsk,' - . . uld b d d Mr. PM'æninsld. of Mildred Dri:fe was of the op1.llJ.on that the department she e cornmen e for their work in relation to an assault of a Village girl which recently took place. Mr. Lorenz of 1206 Burke reported that he moved into the Village in 1948, when the pop- ulation was approximately 4Ø9O and today the pepulati.on is estimated at app" oximately 25 000 which is nearly the size of the city of Winona. Mr. Lorenz asked Erwin Peterson wh~ther he felt a :lawyer could do a good job working 40 hours a week for one firm and