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- •• -• ---- • • - -- ---~ • ~-~~ » ~..> ..-. ~ «.......... ..vvu uM~~VliNl a LlYM', J411V ~, i 1 0.b'G G1 Vl GG <br />usiness Park is part of the 2001 comp plan change that you hold up as sacrosanct.. Probably no <br />ss of use claim if the comp plan designation is already in effect for years before a development. <br />~ and PUD gives developers (and the city) options to come up with plans that don't fit more narrow <br />~ning designations -why is that "central planning" and not freedom? The whole thing has to be <br />proved in the open via the elected officials of the city. 1 think it is possible fora "grand scheme" <br />allow freedom --apparently the Friends of Twin Lakes don't. Seems like you are arguing against <br />e 2001 Master Plan that you are also saying we are not even following in relation to the AUAR. <br />hich planet is it that allows you to own both sides of the argument, and everybody else to own <br />either? <br />reedom: How about letting Dan Commers build a big box on his land? (Not that I am advocating <br />gat - but I think Greenhut is.) The whole opposition to Twin Lakes was to restrict amarket-driven <br />usiness activity (big box retail). How is that not working in opposition to the freedom that <br />~reenhut describes? <br />agree on your last point. EXCEPT that I do not PRESUME corruption in EVERY case, as you <br />m to do. <br />Roe <br />it dan.roe@comcast.net <br />--Original Message--- <br />om: esands2612(a`aol.eom [mailto:esands2612C?aol.con~~] <br />nt: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:07 PM <br />~: dan.roe~~comcast.net <br />bject: Re: Howt o Govern a City -St. Paul Pioneer Press Editorial Friday, June 27 <br />view Twin Lakes as the epitome of grand scheme city planning to micro manage over 172 acres <br />~f developable land. The 66 zone , with a PUD planned unit development placed our city staff in <br />harge of micro managing all the details. How can you not see this as not exactly what Mr. <br />ireenhut was complaining about? Central Planning stifles. Also, the 66 zone took away land <br />wners rights to do what they want with their land. They were only given the right to continue to <br />se their I and so long as they didn't change uses. I think the city should have been sued for loss <br />f value of their land. Now that the land has been vacant and unused for over a year, those land <br />wners are precluded from reverting back to that use. They must conform to the B6 zone <br />aquirements. <br />sometimes l wonder if we live on the same planet. Could you get more specific in your <br />~ments? Just how and why do you think Twin Lakes fits into Mr. Greenhut's stated scheme of <br />dom for land owners to do what they want? <br />n, everyone is naturally greedy and self centered. It is the human condition. Wouldn't you want <br />increase your salary/compensation if you could? Corrupt is a different matter. The Council <br />eds to balance the demands of employees against what's fair compared to the private sector. <br />~w many of us can match their health and retirement benefits? What about outsourcing? ;Are <br />u ready for that? By the way, I'm not ready to fire good employees and replace them with <br />Sands <br />-Original Message---- <br />>m: dan.roe@comcast.net <br />esands2612@aol.com <br />nt: Mon, 30 Ju12007 3:08 pm <br />bject: Re: Howt o Govern a City -St. Paul Pioneer Press Editorial Friday, June 27 <br />htip://webmail.aol.com/29047/aol/en-us/MaiUPrintMessage.aspx 8!7/2007 <br />