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Mr. Willmus suggested that the City of Roseville look at the City of Little <br />Canada's program for comparison and competitive rates. Mr. Willmus <br />asked if the City would be saving him taxpayer money or providing him <br />with better service by going to a zoned service, or was that simply to <br />accommodate a number of haulers. <br />Further discussion included the politics and emotions of the issue; quality <br />control if multiple haulers were used in a zoned system allowing them to <br />maintain a market share; retaining a maximum number of bidders <br />periodically (3-4 years?); and previous work of the City's Solid Waste <br />Commission resulting in the residential curbside recycling program. <br />Staff was directed to provide aone-page draft proposal concept for <br />organized collection for Roseville. <br />Chair DeBenedet recessed the meeting at 8:07 p.m. and reconvened at 8:11 p.m. In order <br />to accommodate audience members, Chair DeBenedet amended the agenda to discuss the <br />proposed illicit discharge ordinance upon reconvening (Item #8). <br />8. Proposed Illicit Discharge Ordinance <br />Ms. Bloom provided a revised draft of the Storm Water Illicit Discharge <br />and Connections Ordinance, based on comments since the November <br />PWET Commission meeting, and incorporating comments from the City <br />Attorney, the Commission and staff. Ms. Bloom noted that those areas <br />needing further discussion, as detailed in the staff report dated November <br />24, 2009. <br />Discussion included additional definitions needed, as suggested by <br />individual Commissioners and those indicated and cross-referenced in <br />other portions of the proposed ordinance, with Ms. Bloom tracking those <br />items as applicable, and including; surface water versus ground water; <br />chlorides being pushed into infiltration facilities; geological terms; <br />vehicles (i.e., concrete trucks) versus construction equipment (i.e., <br />wheelbarrows or other non-motorized equipment); construction activities <br />covered under the NDPES, with this ordinance attempting to address <br />residential activities; nuisance as defined under MN Rules; illegal versus <br />illicit and their interchangeable and/or conflicted use throughout the <br />document; rooftop connections; ditches and channels; definition of <br />sanitary sewage; tidal versus non-tidal surface water; county ditches; and <br />INI reduction program connecting pump sumps to the sanitary sewer <br />system. <br />Further discussion included the need for educational information process <br />through door-to-door attempts, media and on the City's website; ability of <br />staff to respond to illicit discharge complaints and to enforce the <br />ordinance; areas of flexibility based on common sense versus blatant and <br />continuing illegal practices; pervious and impervious surface <br />Page 9 of 11 <br />