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However, Mr. Schwartz advised that, upon further modeling of traffic at <br />that intersection, indications were that the Wells Fargo Bank property <br />would have to be demolished; and at the request of Roseville staff of <br />Ramsey County for a cost benefit for each of the proposed improvements, <br />modeling indicated that little improvement to the operation of the <br />intersection would be realized, and that it was a part of the project Ramsey <br />County was considering eliminating from the project. Mr. Schwartz <br />advised that, at a cost of $3.5 - 4 million for the Wells Fargo property, <br />added rights-of--way and other impacts to properties, and only an <br />additional minimal delay eliminated, a southbound two-left turn lanes had <br />a higher priority and impact. <br />Mr. Toogood opined that the high accident rates and concerns at the <br />intersection of Lexington Avenue and Woodhill could be eliminated <br />through simple and inexpensive signage. <br />Mr. Schwartz advised that he and City Engineer Debra Bloom had <br />reviewed various problem intersections, using both past and present <br />accident rates, and noted that the reconstruction of Snelling Avenue and <br />County Road C had reduced accidents 50% or more due to turn lanes. <br />Discussion among members, Mr. Toogood and staff included the value of <br />the PWET Commission taking this under consideration for further <br />discussion; the need to coordinate the RCL information with the <br />information referenced and used as supporting documentation for the 2030 <br />Comprehensive Plan Update, including accident information, safety and <br />cost benefits; pending improvements by Ramsey County on County Road <br />B-2 and Fairview, as well as the Rice Street corridor, both of which would <br />include intersection improvements; and examples of other intersection <br />improvements that appeared to be poorly conceived and/or corrected. <br />Mr. Schwartz advised that he had been a member of the Citizen Technical <br />Committee working on the Rice Street corridor design plan, and their <br />concern was impacts to businesses as well as accommodating all users of <br />the corridor, and recognizing the limited rights-of--way available to <br />facilitate various users, and the need to use those rights-of--way efficiently <br />and cost-effectively, as well as intersections needing to be designed to <br />function at their highest level of service possible. <br />Further discussion included which projects are programmed for the near <br />future, the need for more safety related to pedestrian and bicycle traffic; <br />and consideration that the wider the road, the faster the cars unless traffic <br />calming issues were included; difficulty in crossing intersections safety as <br />they were widened; and increased impervious surfaces that impact storm <br />water collection and treatment. <br />Additional discussion included some interest of the PWET members in <br />further consideration of this issue; reconciling pathways for a more <br />Page 5 of 11 <br />
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