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having the public space to build a catch basin, so I have to believe this is a very doable Engineering task. Imagine the volume of nutrient, sediment, and salt that would be prevented from draining down the ramp into the lake. Either way this is an excellent opportunity for the GLWMO to make a substantive contribution to water quality for Lake Owasso. Example 3) Why not make plans and recommendations to repair the drain at 3233 Woodbridge Ave? This is a known problem where sink holes even occur in the owners lot. If I understood Mr. Maloney correctly, in the July 27`h meeting, it was his understanding that the drain is inactive. I can assure you when I Kayaked in the rain to the culvert (that drains from 3233 Woodbridge into the lake) on Sunday August 13`h' water dumps out of the culvert into the lake. I realize the City would not want to spend a lot of money on this project given the street upgrade that is probably coming in 2008. Nevertheless the City should do the right thing and make the obligation to make a shortly term fix until the larger street project takes place. I realize space is precious in this area, however, perhaps part of this project would be to seek out an innovate approach to filter the run-off which does not occupy much space. Example 4) This is really an extension of example 1 and 2, however, it could become a project unto itself. Ramsey County use to maintain ownership of NOB -now handled by the City of Shoreview (a gray area with regard to responsibility). If you went to the City of Shoreview and looked for the two culverts that drain into the lake near the boat launch, they are not acknowledged on their sewer maps. Though they most definitely exist and they most definitely carry sediment and nutrients into the lake. The City and County recently successfully worked together to secure the old County site at the northwest corner of NOB and Rice Street. With a little nudge, I have to believe that the same cooperative effort could occur to create a filtering system associated with the 5 drains and the two culverts on NOB. Example S) Rather than conduct additional water quality studies, why not glean more information from previous underutilized studies. Terry Noonan will be the first to admit that he has not had time to slog through the slew of data he has taken over the years. Why not hire a graduate student to "data mine" Terry's spreadsheets to look for possible patterns or trends. Don't jump to conclusions At one point during the meeting Chairman DeZellar said something to the effect "What I am worried about is working with the homeowners association in attempt to get residents to change their ways when talking about aquatic plant treatment". It would not make sense to pose such a hypothetical question unless of course a conclusion was reached prematurely. When I hear statements like that, it indicates to me that preconceived notions are held and that studies are then taken interpreted to support an agenda. It sounds to me like the GLWMO has a goal to have aquatic plant treatment activity on Lake Owasso reduced, and looking to develop findings to support such a recommendation. In case you are not aware, the Lake Owasso Association board (LOA) (along with thousands of residents throughout the state) and several organizations are engaged in an effort to prevent the DNR from adapting an administrative rule change to reduce aquatic plant treatment. The aquatic plant treatment program. for Lake Owasso is very targeted 2