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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, May 16,2011 Page 12 Councilmember Willmus advised that, in his review of past meeting tapes and previous discussions on this issue as well as past discussions with Councilmember Johnson when this suspension issue was discussed last year and his ongoing pre- ference for a two-tiered system; he concurred with Councilmember Johnson's concerns. Councilmember Willmus questioned the rationale of Councilmembers Pust and Roe, when serving as a City Council Task Force on this issue before last year's amendments, on having separate licenses with identical fine and suspen- sion structures. Mayor Roe advised that the previous City ordinance was essentially the same for on- and off-sales with one exception for on-sale establishments who failed their first compliance check and didn't participate in training; with the same penalties for on- and off-sales implemented last year, and based on his perspective, there should be no distinction based on past practice, comparisons with other cites, and lack of other communities having a two-tiered system. Councilmember Pust noted the need for clarity in publically discussing a "two tier" system, when it used to refer to mandatory versus voluntary training, and now was referring to suspension and penalty structures. Councilmember Pust noted that, in carefully reading the ordinance, that the monetary fines and days of suspension are the same for on- and off-sales to ensure that the ordinance didn't treat people differently in how they were fined or the number of days of suspen- sion, but that the difference was in the impacts for those on- and off-sale estab- lishments. Councilmember Willmus noted that the impacts of that economic argument were often heard; however, the component that concerned him most was more focused on the public safety impact and the greater potential of harm from one type of li- censee to another. Councilmember Willmus reviewed past discussions prior to adoption of the current ordinance; and the violation of selling to minors whether at an on- or off-sale establishment and questioned why there were two (2) differ- ent types of licenses, comparing them to driver's licenses and their respective classes and penalties for violations based on those respective classes. Council- member Willmus opined that there was a fairness or equity question that needed to be balanced; and spoke in support of Councilmember Johnson's proposed or- dinance amendments, especially the penalty structure penalizing those where the violation is occurring. Councilmember Johnson noted his perception of public comment was that addi- tional discussion was needed; but that they were not necessarily as a whole op- posed to the proposed ordinance amendments. Councilmember McGehee spoke in support of the proposed ordinance amend- ments, concurring with the comments of Councilmember Willmus. Council- member McGehee opined that many problems were caused by adults purchasing