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MR. HONCHELL: There are some in other parts of the City but my recommendation would be to ignore them. Not that I'm against street lights - but the City is not in the light busi- ness. Ninety percent of the street lights in the City are main- tained by NSP. In the case of underground facilities, they are wooden poles with arms. We do not stock poles, we don't have an electrician to go around and check light bulbs, and we don't keep parts around for one street light of a particular design. Over a period of 20 years or so, it's very difficult to keep parts around for three or four lights. It has been done and we're paying for it dearly. On County Road B-2 near Rosedale and further to the west near the golf course you will see some of the City's ornamental lights. They are a problem. When they are run over, we have to special-order poles. MAYOR DEMOS: You said they're wooden poles? MR. HONCHELL: The underground system is a wooden pole system, not a metal pole system. They're straighter, nicer looking wooden poles. - MAYOR DEMOS: Not tree trunks. MR. HONCHELL: But they are wooden. MR. SANDBERG: Along County Road B-2 they are metal. Is there a difference in cost? MR. HONCHELL: The City would have to go out and have the lights designed, order them, hire someone to put them up and maintain them forever. The cost would be three or four times as much. NSP has people to do this work everyday rather than us special hiring someone every time a light bulb has to be changed. We don't even have the equipment to get up that high. MR. GEORGE REILING, 661 Heinel Drive: Does it actually cost NSP $1800.00 to erect this - over and above what the other poles cost? MR. HONCHELL: No, I can explain how the $1800.00 comes about. Say this is intersection "X" and "Y" and you have a so- called overhead, up-in-the-air system. If we put one light there, it would cost $8.60 per month for the power, bulbs, repair work, etc., in the future. They do that all for $8.60 per month. Over a year it amounts to $103.20. On the other hand, they charge us $11.05 per month if it's in an underground area. I can't tell you why there is that difference, except that the people who regulate their rates have approved that rate and that is what we pay for underground lights anywhere 'in the City. The difference is about $30.00 a year. As you have observed from your own NSP bills, what you used to pay a dollar for no longer costs a dollar - the same will occur,with street lights - so we have put in an 8% inflation factor and multiplied that higher rate by 20 years, which comes out to $1350.00 in 3