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Parks, Trails Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes January 11, 2011 Page 2 Ms. Olson indicated that a few members of the Council have expressed interest in some trail signage in residential areas where it is difficult for people to determine where the trail leads to or if it even continues. She reiterated that at a prior meeting the committee had discussed the possibility of installing some kiosks. Committee Member Kramlinger mentioned a product his neighbor's company produces that they may want to look at. Ms. Olson asked Committee Member Kramlinger to get her contact information for his neighbor so she could discuss pricing. He indicated he believed the cost was $20 per sign and a $10 set up charge. Ms. Olson asked if the signs would be able to be cleaned if vandalized. Committee Member Peck indicated they may be able to put a clear finish over the signs so they are easier to clean. Ms. Olson stated the City Council may only want signs placed at the trails where they are most needed. Committee Member Peck suggested the committee prioritize where they would like the signage. Discussion ensued on the signage. Ms. Olson indicated she would like a recommendation from the committee on the goals for 2011. The committee indicated they would like more time to review and bring back at the next meeting. It was agreed to have the 2011 goals put back on as an agenda item in February. B. CP Rail Mural Discussion Ms. Olson provided the committee with photos of the graffiti that someone painted on the CP rail wall. Ms. Olson indicated she had talked to Mr. Hames about the graffiti and has contacted Ramsey County to see if they would be able to track the responsible party. She indicated the graffiti will be painted over. She did talk to Mr. Hames about cost for paint and supplies and he felt it would probably be under $1,500 but he had concerns that the graffiti artist may repaint the wall even after the mural is finished. He shared thoughts that the committee may be putting a lot of work into this and then may have it vandalized. His suggestion was that the PTRC should wait one year before holding the contest. She asked for the committee's opinion on whether they wanted to proceed with the mural contest at the present time. Committee Chair Scott questioned whether the committee had discussed any organic solutions like vines and was wondering if that would be something they may want to consider. The committee agreed this is something they could consider in the future. Ms. Olson indicated Council's concern was about cost and graffiti and if there is a way to graffiti -proof the mural. Ms. Olson informed the members that she has not yet spoken to the railroad as she was waiting for Council approval. Discussion ensued regarding the mural and on how they should proceed. It was also discussed that they may want to look at some timed or solar lighting for that area since it is very dark. Ms. Olson stated she would like to bring a recommendation to Council in March on whether to proceed with the contest and also regarding the lighting. The committee decided to table the mural contest until a future date. MOTION: Committee Member Peck motioned to table the CP rail mural seconded by Committee Member Petersen. The motioned carried unanimously.