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ARDEN HILLS REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETNG—NOVEMBER 14, 2011 8 <br /> Joe Lux, Ramsey County Transportation Planner, explained that this project is at a point now <br /> where it will not be constructed in 2012. The County also agrees with the City that it's not a good <br /> idea to begin this project at the same time that the Lexington Avenue improvements are taking <br /> place. The goal is to let the US 10/Highway 96 project in late 2012 for construction as early as <br /> possible in 2013. <br /> Mr. Lux explained that after the last Council meeting on this item, he, Public Works Director <br /> Maurer, and Jim Tolaas from Ramsey County, all met with the MnDOT area engineer Mark <br /> Lindeberg. They got permission to approach Peter Wasko; the MnDOT Noise and Air Quality <br /> Supervisor, to look at the noise analysis. He stated that he explained to Mr. Wasko that the issue <br /> is not noise from Highway 96 but from US 10 that affects the Lake Shore Place homes so his <br /> analysis was based on what can be done about the noise from US 10 for those homes. Mr. Wasko <br /> concluded that the single line of homes on Lake Shore Place would not meet the cost-effective <br /> threshold. Regardless of the wall height or length, the same number of homes would be affected <br /> per foot of wall and that does not meet the cost-effective threshold. <br /> Councilmember Tamble asked if we had received data from that analysis with decibel readings <br /> to confirm their findings. <br /> Public Works Director Maurer stated they have all the data from the previous studies. No <br /> additional noise analysis was done because there have been several different noise studies <br /> prepared by several different consultants. He then referred to a memo in the Council's packet <br /> from Chris Chromy, the City's consultant, and he had reviewed Mr. Wasko's analysis and found <br /> that there is no way to make this cost-effectiveness. Mr. Chromy also found that even with the <br /> addition of three platted lots into the calculation, the noise mitigation costs would remain above <br /> the established reasonableness threshold of$3,250 per decibel reduced per residence. In a recent <br /> conversation with Mr. Chromy, he indicated that the closest he could get to the $3,250 threshold <br /> was $4,400. <br /> Mayor Grant stated he needs to see what was considered in this analysis; such as the placement <br /> of the wall and varying wall heights. <br /> Mr. Lux responded that essentially they looked at a wall from 1,500 to 2,000 feet long shifted <br /> north and south along Highway 96 and they looked at two wall heights: 10 feet and 20 feet. The <br /> conclusion was that a 10-foot wall would cost $10,785 per decibel reduced per resident and a 20- <br /> foot wall would cast $5,839 per decibel per resident. To go any higher than that would be cost <br /> prohibitive because of footings required for a greater height. <br /> Councilmember Holmes asked when they looked at shifting the location of the wall to the south, <br /> did that extend all the way to I-694. <br /> Mr. Lux responded that they analyzed various lengths; the original wall proposed was modeled at <br /> 1,500 feet long. Mr. Cmiel, Lake Shore Place resident, proposed a wall 2,000 feet long. They <br /> looked at shifting both lengths north and south. <br /> Councilmember Tamble asked how much difference it would make to use today's conditions <br /> versus the 2008 figures used for this analysis. <br />
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