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Notes from March 19, 1991, Trails Advocacy Network Meeting *ENDEES: Richard Arey St. Paul Pk&Rec Comm Bob Bierscheid Roseville Recr. Perry Bolin Friends Bd Jim Dustrude MNDOT Tom Dwight MN Pks&Trails Council Bernie Edmonds Ramsey Cty. Pk Comm Neil Franey Friends Bd Bill Frank Ramsey Cty. Pk Comm Larry Holmberg Ramsey Cty Pk&Rec. Dept. Mike Horan Ramsey Cty. Pk Comm Jill Jacoby Shoreview--Transp. Planner Milt Krona Friends Bd Marilyn Lundberg Friends Bd Peggy Lynch Friends Bd Greg Mack Ramsey Cty. Pk&Rec Dept. Tim Mayasich Ramsey Cty. Public Works Mike Miller Minn Coalition of Bicyclists Bob Nethercut Ramsey Cty Pk&Rec Comm Greg Pates MNDOT Bicycle Planning Bob Piram St. Paul Pk&Rec Div. Cindy Severtson Arden Hills Pks&Rec Marsha Soucheray Shoreview&Mn. Bicycle Adv. Bd Mark Stange Shoreview Arne Stefferud Metro Council 6 John Uban DSU, Inc. (Repr. of RISA) 1. Establishing Common Language/Standards for Trails Greg Pates did an excellent job defining trails/bikeways terms for the group. The definitions came from Minnesota statutes, and the AASHTO Guide For Development of New Bicycle Facilities-1981 (copies were distributed) . He was careful to emphasize that distinctions between the various trail types are anything but clearcut. There is a lot of overlap. He did very clearly show what the various trail types should look like in various settings. Some of the key comments/definitions are given below: ** Bicycle-- is defined as a 'vehicle' . It has all the rights and priveleges of vehicles. ** Off Road Bike Path--should be at least 5 ft. wide if one-way and at least 10 ft. wide if two way, with at least 2 feet of grading on each side and relatively free of intrusions by intersections or driveways. It works best as an "exclusive corridor" . Along roadways they are defined as a paved (or cement) area between the curb and the adjacent property lines and clearly separated from the roadway. They are intended for the exclusive or preferential use by bicyclists. ** Sidewalks-- Along roadways they are defined as a paved (or cement) area between the curb and the adjacent property lines and clearly separated from the roadway--- intended for the exclusive or preferential use by pedestrians. [The distinction between off-road bike paths and sidewalks is thus one of ended use, rather than design. ] -- way--typically a paved and * Bike Lanes Bikeways that are part of a road way ypi y striped zone adjacent to it.