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Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 5 <br /> October 22,2002 <br /> Mr. Moore asked how long the process would be for the project. Mr. McIlwain stated that it <br /> • would take approximately three to four months depending upon the type of contract. He stated <br /> that through the bid process they are looking at approximately six months total time noting that <br /> seven to eight months would be more realistic. He stated that it would start in the May <br /> timeframe with completion in late summer. <br /> Mr. Lysne reviewed the conceptual construction costs estimates for Perry, Cummings, Hazelnut, <br /> Floral, and Valentine Parks and the prototype Picnic Shelters with the Committee. He stated that <br /> the costs are following similar guidelines as previously discussed. <br /> Mr. Moore asked if the SS1 is roughly the same size, dimensionally, as the warming house. Mr. <br /> McIlwain clarified that the warming shelter is 28' x 52' and the SS is 38' x 20' and reviewed the <br /> differences with the Committee. Mr. Lysne noted that the warming shelter is a standard size that <br /> could accommodate a fair amount of people. <br /> Council Liaison Larson asked for clarification of the rationale for two buildings and asked if it <br /> could be done as one building. Mr. Lysne stated that they could be made into one adding that <br /> one of the warming house styles does open up as a shelter. He reviewed the concepts with <br /> Council Liaison Larson. He stated that if the warming shelter is a priority he suggested a smaller <br /> warming house at the top of the hill without toilets. He explained that they could do a single <br /> building where a warming house does open up as a shelter. Ms. Olson noted that the hill is not <br /> very safe and there has been discussion to have the grade lessened. <br /> Mr. Lysne reviewed Floral Park noting that it follows the same pattern with toilets and a small <br /> storage room. He stated that it would be a medium size building similar to the picnic shelter at <br /> Hazelnut Park. He stated that Valentine Park was a fairly substantial building and that this <br /> would be a warming shelter that could be opened up to a picnic shelter. Ms. Olson asked if they <br /> plan to place it in the same place as the current building. Mr. Moore explained that it would be <br /> moved where the swingsets are presently located. <br /> Mr. Lysne reviewed the new prototype shelters with the Committee. He stated that Floral and <br /> Valentine Park are within the $300,000 range and that Perry Park is approximately$500,000.00. <br /> Committee Member Thompson clarified that the cost of the picnic tables is not included. Mr. <br /> McIlwain stated that Ramsey County normally provides the picnic tables. <br /> Mr. Moore stated that the shelter options,with costs, are exactly what they wanted to see. Mr. <br /> McIlwain stated that they could provide further information if necessary. He stated that next <br /> year would be a good year for construction bidding and that they would get a fair price. <br /> Mr. McIlwain referenced the material and image studies stating that they would like to review <br /> the prairie style structure. He reviewed the building image and material palettes with the <br /> Committee. He provided a picture board that included various styles of shelters for the <br /> Committee to review. <br /> Mr. Lysne noted that if they can find the right building that would suit Arden Hills that each <br /> location would be site specific with respect to the materials used structurally. <br />