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MINUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING Village of Arden Hills • Monday, February 3, 1986 - 7:30 p.m. Village Hall Call to Order Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Woodburn called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. Roll Call Present: Mayor Robert Woodburn, Councilmembers Nancy Hansen, Dale Hicks, Gary Peck, Thomas Sather Absent: None Also Present: Engineers Don Christoffersen, Glenn Van Wormer, Barry Peters, City Planner Orlyn Miller, Treasurer Donald Lamb, Public Works Supervisor Robert Raddatz, Clerk Administrator Charlotte McNiesh Approval of Minutes Motion was made by Hicks, seconded by Peck, that the minutes of January 27 be approved as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0) Business from the Floor None Improvement No. P-85-3, Hamline Avenue, Phase II Noting that some inaccuracies have appeared in local publications relative to estimated costs of the proposed Hamline Avenue improvement, Barry • Peters (SEH) presented to the Council the following summaries: 46' Roadway $842,095 36' Roadway $731,895 Surcharging 120,000 120,000 Sidewalk, west side 34,905 34,905 $997,000 $886,800 Sidewalk, east side 18,200 18,200 $1,015,200 $905,000 In discussion, Council noted that Parks Committee has recommended a sidewalk on the east side of Hamline, extending from Karth Lake Circle to Wyncrest; asked if there is room for one on the right-of-way as planned. Christoffersen replied that there is an 8' easement; 5' could be used as sidewalk, leaving a 3' boulevard. Asked if estimate for 36' roadway included any turn lanes, Christoffersen said that none were included. Council further asked if there is a feasible way to discourage cut-through traffic on Hamline Avenue. Van Wormer stated that the only way to do so would be to create physical restrictions, which would inconvenience local traffic as well; he noted that, apparently motorists are finding it (Hamline) the most expeditious route even in its present condition; thus would seem hard to discourage. Van Wormer stated he did not anticipate a great increase in traffic from outside the area after reconstruction; added that during the reconstruction, some of the motorists currently using the route will find alternate routes and perhaps not return. Council asked if warrants are used to determine the need for turn lanes, as they are for semaphores. . .Van Wormer stated that there are guidelines given by the State, but not specific "numbers of accidents" or "traffic counts"; noted that the number of turns at STH 96 and Arden View Court would far exceed any guidelines given; general advice is whenever there are three residences or one commercial establishment making a turn, a turn lane should be provided for safety reasons. Van Wormer further stated that the Parks Committee had been looking for cross walks to provide safe crossing east and west across Hamline; his advice is that the City put in one or two cross walks, providing access to the parks; past experience has been that motorists would probably respect one or two cross walks; would not advise over two; City could thus provide access to Floral and Cummings Park.