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<br />. <br /> <br />MR. COLESTOCK: Actually, if I laid it out before you and <br />said Ms. McAllister - here's my property or his property, whoever - <br />before and here is now - nothing has changed. We still go west <br />when we turn off Lexington Avenue to drive into the property, <br />the water still flows down and goes west to get through the storm <br />sewer, our customers still do all of the same things they did <br />before and they have no probleMs. So I have to say that the <br />essence of the thing is no - there has been no benefit. But, as <br />I said, we're pragmatists. We're not here to take a stand and <br />say what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong and we're not <br />going to let you get away with it. What we're saying to you is <br />that we think you're off-base as far as the assessment rate is <br />concerned. We are willing to consider paying a certain amount of <br />money, even though we don't think it's justified. So let's talk <br />about it, because it's going to cost us both a lot more to go to <br />court - in time, in money, in aggravation and maybe some friend- <br />ships. We still like to be good guys, you know, when it's all <br />said and done. <br /> <br />COUNCILMAN McALLISTER: Okay, do you have a number in mind? <br /> <br />MR. COLESTOCK: No, I don't. This is one of the reasons <br />why we asked to sit down with your Council and with your City <br />engineer and whoever else is concerned with how this assessment <br />was approached. I can't answer all of the questions for this <br />group, but in general I think you will find that they will back <br />up what I am saying and go along with any reasonable situation. <br /> <br />COUNCILMAN JOHNSON: I believe for the past year and a half <br />there have been times when the engineer, at some length, <br />described how the assessments were determined, the topography, <br />the direction of the flow, and what they expected. I don't know <br />if you were here. Would there be any advantage in having him <br />again describe briefly how they arrived at the flow, the direc- <br />tion, the design - which, of course, then established the result. <br /> <br />MR. GORDON MILLER: I see no reason that it would help. I <br />can't speak, again, for anyone else but our property - the R. L. <br />Gould property. We have one storm drain that takes water from <br />off of our property and it goes onto the old Lexington Avenue <br />system. Not anyplace on any of the new work that's been done. <br />You've put in curbs and gutters on Grey Fox, but nobody uses Grey <br />Fox as far as our customers are concerned. They're using our <br />parking lot. So if we don't use the street and we don't use the <br />storm sewer, how do we gain a benefit? <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />MAYOR WOODBURN: Where does your water go? <br /> <br />MR. MILLER: It stays right on the property. Where it <br />goes underground, I don't know. It doesn't drain off. <br /> <br />COUNCILMAN JOHNSON: You said you do not use Grey Fox? <br /> <br />MR. MILLER: For parking or anything. For driving on, yes. <br />But we had a street and there was a perfectly drive able street <br />there. <br /> <br />14 <br />