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<br />ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - MARCH 26,2001 <br /> <br />7 <br /> <br />the integrity of the design. He stated he thought that 10 or 30 percent could still look nice and be <br />. hard to distinguish from each other. He noted the difference in cost is considerable. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant asked if the 30 percent would include the parking structure too. Mr. <br />Carlson responded that no it would be 30 percent ofthe principle structure. He stated that if they <br />went around and looked at this class of office building, most have colored masonry or precast. <br />He noted it is more related to cost. <br /> <br />Mr. Doughty stated architectural precast is a material that has been used very successfully for the <br />last 20 years. He noted he does not have any hesitation on its use. He added it is almost as high <br />of quality as stone material. He stated he does not want to limit them. He stated the other <br />concern on EFIS is the breathability of it and its intrinsic nature. He noted it is only a concern if <br />it does not have good installation practices utilized. He added he does not think it is a Planning <br />Commission issue, but an owner of the building issue. He stated they have a good contractor. <br />He noted they have concerns too about EFIS. He added if it is down at grade and not detailed <br />properly it could be a problem. He stated architectural precast on parking garages is pretty <br />standard. <br /> <br />Mr. Carlson stated they would shoot themselves in the foot to have a great building and an ugly . <br />duck parking deck. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Mr. Shardlow stated along the Gateway Boulevard they think the best way to handle the edge is <br />through berming and landscaping. He noted there might be some area for a decorative wall. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant asked about the percentage ofEFIS on the slides provided. Mr. Doughty <br />described the examples. <br /> <br />Councilmember Rem stated she thinks the concern with the materials is not how it looks, but <br />how it would age. Mr. Doughty stated that would be the owner's concern. <br /> <br />Councilmember Rem stated this is their city and they would have to live it. Mr. Carlson <br />responded there have been changes in the quality of the systems. <br /> <br />Councilmember Larson stated when he thinks of a first class building, he does not think of <br />stucco. He noted cost might be a factor. He added Roseville is getting a five-story building <br />without any stucco. He stated Medtronic has none. <br /> <br />Mr. Doughty stated he thinks it comes in with a lower office/showroom. He noted they would <br />not put up an eight-story building with EFIS. <br /> <br />Mr. Carlson stated if they have a single story building they would like to use 30 percent EFIS, <br />but use 20 percent on a multi-story. Mr. Doughty stated they would add EFIS only on the upper <br />floor. <br /> <br />. Mr. Shardlow stated synthetic stucco would be permitted on the upper floors. <br />