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<br />. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 <br /> <br />13 <br /> <br />Councilmember Larson stated that this pond was estimated to cost $300,000. He asked what size <br />pond that would cover. Mr. Leaf noted Appendix D indicates the approximate size of the pond. <br />He added the surface area of the pond would be 2.46 acres for pond. <br /> <br />Councilmember Rem noted the language about this pond, conflicts with statements made in the <br />document regarding the importance of city parks. <br /> <br />Mayor Probst stated he urged caution on the part of the Council to pre-judge a solution. He <br />noted Valentine Park now has significant drainage problems. He added the fill resulting from the <br />construction of a pond could be used to bring up the standards of the park. <br /> <br />Councilmember Larson stated they should add language to make sure that alternatives have to be <br />considered. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant stated the area of Valentine Park was three acres. He noted he would <br />rather the plan indicate the city was looking at something other than a pond for that location. He <br />stated he would not support a pond. <br /> <br />Mayor Probst stated the language would need to be similar for all the locations. He noted the <br />Council needed to keep in mind the purpose of the document. He added a pond would raise the <br />same issues at every location. He stated that until they tried to design a solution, the city would <br />not know what would be best. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant stated he was fine with the descriptors at other locations. He noted his <br />concern that a future city council could think this Council advocated destroying a park. <br /> <br />Mr. Leaf stated the intent of the plan was that it should be a guide. He noted it was not intended <br />to be a hard and fast document. He added the plan needs to be moved into the agency approval <br />stage. He stated he would view this issue as a clarifying change and not an intent change. He <br />noted the plan would not need to go back for another agency review. He added the plan was <br />intended and written to be flexible. <br /> <br />Councilmember Rem stated that since some of the text refers to these ponds as projects the plan <br />could define "p" as "project" instead of "pond". She noted the word project gives it a slightly <br />broader implication. She added the city could look at a broader solution than a predetermined <br />pond. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant stated on page 32, F2, stated Rice Creek Watershed had the authority to <br />approve changes. He noted the Watershed could consider it a plan, Mayor Probst responded this <br />was not a plan from the standpoint of a predetermined solution. He stated the city was not <br />committed to spend this money. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant stated it would be wise to reword the plan. He noted right now a pond <br />was costed and sized. <br />