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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES DECEMBER 10, 2001 9 . He noted that with respect to keeping the fence 10 feet off the boundary, it would not work with the plan. He added it would require them to push the snow off into the street, which they would not want to do. He stated it would not be appropriate. He noted that when it is appropriate they would need to move snow off this site and they are aware of that. He added that with respect to hedges 8 to 10 feet, the trees would grow faster than the hedge with the number of trees they have planned. He stated the ramp that Mr. Ristow talked about was part of the concept plan. He noted they were going to have grass pavers. He added they would be concrete with grass growing up between it. He stated it will not be a paved surface. He noted there would be a catch basin at the bottom to catch the water that runs down it. He added it was going to be used occasionally for private use. He stated they would use the basement for storage. He noted they are placing trees to the east so that they would not have to trim the neighbor's trees. He added that at the time of the preliminary concept plan, they did meet with all three of the neighbors. He stated they are talking about a quality development. He noted that hopefully they would provide a nice attractive building at the entrance to the community. Councilmember Larson asked about the fence. Mr. Nelson responded that on the north side there is a fence and all the trees. He stated Mr. Ristow had asked the landscape architect to have a . green hedge in that comer. Councilmember Grant stated setbacks has come several times, but in the presentation it appeared there were no setback issues. Mr. Parrish responded there are no building setbacks or deviations being requested. He stated there is a parking lot setback of 17 and 18 feet from Country Road D and Cleveland A venue, when 20 feet is required. He noted the neighborhood business zoning district has a buffer yard requirement of 30 feet. He added it is met on the east side, but not on the north side. He stated it is 14 feet to the north or one half of the requirement. He noted that is measured from the edge of the parking lot. Councilmember Grant asked if the fence is designed to mitigate the fact that there is a smaller buffer yard. Mr. Parrish responded that was an accommodation made. Councilmember Grant asked about the second fence. Mr. Nelson responded there is a dilapidated fence that would be removed. He stated that in the discussion with the landscape architect, the architect indicated that a six-foot fence is a standard fence. He noted to increase it to a eight foot fence would be to almost double the cost. He added that an eight-foot fence is an ugly fence. He stated there is more screening by trees than by the eight-foot fence. He noted if they have straight-line winds as they did before, it would blow the fence down. He added they went through this discussion on the sideline setback with the concept plan. He stated everyone wanted parking on the west side of the building to buffer Mr. Ristow since his home is very close. He noted the sidewalk there is a fire exit out of the north side of the building. He added they had to have two . exits from the second floor. He stated the sidewalk would be used for the fire exit. Councilmember Larson stated that after listening to the presentations and knowing the history of this property, he is prepared to support the proposal. He noted they have a design that is as