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<br />e <br /> <br />- <br /> <br />, <br /> <br />ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - SEPTEMBER 11,2000 <br /> <br />20 <br /> <br />Mayor Probst did not believe that there was any more information that could be provided to the <br />City Council, in fact he felt that there was too much information that all parities are struggling to <br />sort out. He noted that the City had decided that it would bc appropriate to begin the 2000/200 I <br />Street Improvement project in the Ingerson neighborhood and he felt that there was no point in <br />delaying the project <br /> <br />Ms, Swanson understood that the City Council has fiduciary duty to the City as a whole, She <br />indicated that the Council's duty also encompasses making all available infoIDlation known and <br />looking to the future, For example, with regard to water quality, the Rice Creek Watershed has <br />stated that more impervious surface is detrimental to water quality, not only the residents of the <br />neighborhood, but also to the City, She stated that the City will have to comply with more <br />stringent rules in the future for having increased impervious surface in the City. <br /> <br />Councilmember Larson stated that he has taken into consideration the livability aspects that have <br />been highlighted. He stated that he sat on the Water Quality Task Force for seven months and he <br />agreed that it was very importmlt to pay attention to actions taken and how they affect water <br />quality, However, beyond these issues, he felt that this neighborhood needed wider streets to <br />accommodate the pedestrians and the children living in the neighborhood. He stated that he lives <br />on a busy street that has a shoulder wide enough to support all the walkers, Hc acknowledged <br />that a wider street may result in higher speeds, however, he believed that there were ways to <br />addrcss this issue, <br /> <br />An audicnce member stated that she walks on the streets of this neighborhood mld if she felt <br />unsafe it was due to the speed of the cars, not the width of the road itself. <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant statcd that he has driven down Ingerson Road many times in the last six <br />months. He stated that this was a very rural setting with the houses set back farther from the road <br />than in a typical development. He stated that there was a good line of sight down the road and he <br />had not noticed a great deal of cars parked on the road, He felt that with the line of sight <br />pedestrians are able to see traffic coming and the traffic is able to see the pedestrians, He <br />acknowledged that the residents wish to maintain the rural character of tbeir neighborhood, <br />Additionally, the City Staff was recommending wider streets when the Watershed Districts prefer <br />narrow roads to maintain water quality, <br /> <br />MOTION: <br /> <br />Councilmember Aplikowski moved and Councilmember Rem seconded a motion <br />to direct that the widths of the roads within the Ingerson neighborhood are to <br />remain as they currently are, and that a three-foot shoulder be striped on both <br />sides of Ingerson Road to maintain the illusion of narrowness, and that stop signs <br />shall not be installed at either Dunlop Road or Fernwood Road, <br /> <br />Councilmember Larson believed that the majority of the Council was in favor of leaving <br />Ingerson Road at 28 feet wide. He stated that he would prefer that the Council vote on this <br />particular issue separately since he felt that Councilmember Aplikowski's motion was <br />problematic for a number of reasons, He did not feel that Hamline Avenue should remain at 24 <br />feet wide and he suggested that the motion should specifically state that Ingerson Road and <br />