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. . . . - .... .' various alternatives. (2) The engineers have assumed an in- creasing flow of traffic on Hamline and that's the rationale for the increase in road size. What if the residents say they would like to discourage traffic flow and by 1999 it's only half of what the engineers predict. What alternative would be most suited to that amount of traffic. (3) What is the lifetime expectancy of the proposal for the overlay. Mr. , Christoffersen replied that the 44 foot, 36 foot, or 32 foot streets would require construction through 1977. The 24 foot street would probably also require construction, into next year, and the only thing that could be completed this year would be the overlay. In answer to question 3, Mr. Christoffersen said the overlay might last ten years, it might last 20 years, but there would be settlement in the street in the next two years. In answer to question 2, Mr. Christoffersen said he believes that people who use Hamline Avenue now will continue to use it a.nd the traffic on Hamline will continue to grow as the growth in the area proceeds and as the traffic flows come from the north. Dr. Levit then asked what width road would be recom- mended for various traffic flows. Mr. Christoffersen replied that the width of the road doesn't control the traffic - it only makes it safer. The width of the road would also depend on whether the residents want parking on one side, or both sides, or not at all. MR. KEITH KOCH, 1410 Indian oaks Trail: Asked the engi- neer why it was necessary to put storm sewers on Hamline Avenue in one of the alternatives. Mr. Christoffersen replied,. "Storm sewers in an urban street are necessary - an urban street meaning one with curb and gutter. At each intersection you have drainage and crowns meeting and it's carried there by the curb and gutter. There's no way unless you build valleys in your intersections - there's no way to get through. You pick it up and carry it through the intersections. Another criteria is as you are picking up water, it collects, and as it comes down the hill you gradually increase the water and if you do not pick it up it could theoretically cover the road at the lower points." Mr. Koch pointed out that Indian Oaks Trail is not crowned at Hamline and he doesn't see the necessity of gutters. There's no water problem at that point. Mr. Koch further said he doesn't understand the need for parking on Harnline. Also said he would be opposed to increasing the speed limit on Hamline Avenue if the road is widened. Further indicated that he doesn't see the need for sidewalks on Harnline Avenue. MR. EDWARD COMPTON, 1287 Nursery Hill Lane: Said he doesn't think the traffic flow now or in the future on Hamline Avenue will warrant a wider street. MR. RICHARD PEDERSON, 1224 Amble Road: If the 44 foot road improvement were constructed, how would the city assess those people who live off of the road. Asked how his taxes would go up if the maximum alternatives were constructed on county Road F and on Harnline. Mr. Popovich replied that his total taxes would go up one half of one percent. 3