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- . Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, December 9, 1985 Page three Van Wormer reviewed the volume counts since 1979 (5,000/day), 1981 (6,000/day), 1984 (8,OOO/day); anticipates 9,OOO/day by 1987. Lamey said 350 residents can't make 9,000 trips/day; others are using the road, not just residents; Lamey said. without stop signs, the road will become a drag strip; noted that cars coming off the freeway don't stop and won't stop; asked if there will be any stop lights. Answer - None are anticipated as part of the project. Lamey reported that the Army uses this road too, and not only on weekends; asked if the Army will pay for any of this; said sometimes has had to wait ten minutes to get into his driveway. Lamey said the road will take out some of his oak trees and part of his driveway; if this happens, it will make his . driveway "impossible"; said he had a title search before he bought the property - there was no problem when he bought the house. Answer - Christoffersen explained that the driveway appears to be in the curb return area; is not certain of this until plans are prepared. Lamey said he feels plans should be prepared for a smaller project; rather than going over budget - 2 lanes and no sidewalk. Jean Day, 4250 Hamline Avenue said she wrote to Representative Tony Bennett about what has happened to Hamline Avenue; is most upset with the response to her letter; objects to not having any "say" about speed problems and shouldn't have to pay for the road; feels we are making a freeway out of Hamline and there's no reason for it. Answer - Woodburn explained that it is not proposed that Hamline Avenue residents pay more than other residents have paid for "residential" roads in front of their homes. Tom Rockne, 4101 James Circle, said he's on the "other side of the fence"; feels Hamline must be upgraded; if considered a "dragstrip", it must be improved to a "safer dragstrip"; feels the amount of money proposed to be spent is cheap insurance. Lorraine Manuel, 4460 No. Hamline Avenue, said she has lived here 35 years; Hamline was a lovely road; asked if we need sidewalks and storm sewers; feels the recent home builders should be required to put the road back in the condi- tion it was in before they built the houses; asked if the people on Hamline Avenue have asked for the road improvement; isn't aware of a tremendous push by the residents. L. Manuel said we wouldn't have all the traffic if we had stop signs; feels a stop sign is needed at STH 96 and access to 1-694 is poorly engineered; would prefer having a semaphore to a sidewalk. Woodburn reported that he unde~stands the 1-694 access at Hamline was at the people's insistance, not the engineer's. L. Manuel said the traffic on Hamline will lower her property value; noted that access to her driveway is difficult now - proposed project and increased speed will make it worse; stated we don't need the project - why not fix the road we have? Van Wormer was asked what effect a semaphore has on speed. Answer - Speed may be slower for about 200 feet on either side of a semaphore . but increases after that, after a stop. Woodburn noted that traffic signals cost about $100,000. Manual said she feels Council will do as it pleases anyway; feels Council . should consider our taxes; stated you listen to us, but do as you want anyway; said we don't need a road on such a "grand scale"; feels it is already "cut and dried". Christoffersen explained that most residents have paid for the street in front of their homes; noted that streets built today are constructed with curb and gutter and are 100% assessed; explained that the additional cost for this road is because the road carries more traffic than a residential street; it was designated as an MSA street to help pay for the additional cost to construct a 9-ton, instead of a 7-ton, road. -~