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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, December 9, 1985 Page two McNiesh reported that a member of the Board of Townhouse Villages at Arden Hills called; said the Board has not taken a stand on the matter; requests that their underground sprinkling system be protected during the road con- struction (referred to City Engineer). Comments from the Floor Gerald Glomski, 4508 Hamline Avenue, said that those who live on Hamline re- ceived notices; others with access to Hamline did not receive notices; feels the people living on cul-de-sacs use the road as much as those living on Hamline and should receive some assessment. Glomski said it appears you have taken a secondary road and turned it into a freeway. Answer - It was noted that the reason the residents off Hamline did not re- ceive notices is they have already been assessed for their road. Hamline . Avenue property owners have not been assessed for a road. Bill Oberreit, 4465 Arden View Court, said it was his understanding, from reading the notice, that all properties within 1/4 to 1/2 mile, east or west of Hamline Avenue, received notices. Answer - All properties abutting Hamline, and all properties in the Townhouse Villages received notices. Pat Weaver, 1330 Amble Road, said she called the Village office today and was told that the townhouses and everyone on Hamline Avenue received notices. Answer - The legal description in the notice covers a wider area than the properties actually receiving notices; notice was sent to properties abutting Hamline and to the Townhouse Villages. Pat Weaver said the road is already a freeway; feels the proposed project will make it more that way - like Lexington. Traffic Engineer Van Wormer was asked how the traffic on Hamline, after the proposed improvement, will compare to the present traffic volume. Van Wormer said the volume will probably remain about the same; speed will generally be only 1 to 2 miles per hour over the existing speed; noted that the condition of a road will make a 1 to 2 mph difference i~ speed (smooth road - 1 to 2 mile increase; poor road condition - 1 to 2 mile decrease). Mayor Woodburn noted that when Fairview was upgraded, a 1 to 2 mph decrease in speed was experienced, according to a report from Ramsey County. Van Wormer said the improved roadway will produce "more uniform speed". Nancy Hansen reported that when she was on the Public Safety Committee, the concern of Hamline Avenue residents was speed; wanted the speed limit reduced; noted that the speed has been reduced to 40 mph. Hansen reported that the unsafe driving conditions on Hamline were also a reported concern; residents wanted a safe turn lane. Hansen noted that a center lane for turns only was considered the best option after hearing the comments from residents. Mike Lamey, 1349 Colleen Avenue, said he lives at the corner of Colleen .and Hamline; asked if we need such a big project; do we need a sidewalk; do we need turn lanes? Lamey asked how many properties abut the street? Answer - 350+ notices were mailed. Lamey said these are the properties that may be assessed? . Answer - Woodburn said this may be one of the sources - yes. Lamey asked if anyone had been in the mire during the County Road D project; asked if we want this kind of mess for two years - a "quagmire". , Christoffersen said he expects construction in 1986 over about 3-1/2 months; noted that the contractor will provide access for residents; noted that con- struction conditions will not be as bad in 1987, when the side lanes are added. Lamey asked how many cars use Hamline? -- ---------