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2 necessary subdrainage to maintain tbe roadway integrity and that a cold-in-place recycle process would be appropriate. As 1 read it, the City's recommendation states that the cost different between the cold-recyle process and a new subbase is "approximately $25.00/per foot" At tbe July 6, 2000 Review Group meeting, Greg Brown stated that, assuming a 30' wide roadway, the cost of a 4"cold recycle process, including Bituminous curbing was approximately $65,$85 per f09tCQJ11pared to a full reconstruction (new subbase) of$]80-$200 per foot. Assuming these numbers to be correct, the difference between the two processes is a lot more than $25.00 per foot and, in fact, more than double the cost. I believe it is an unnecessary expense to both the City and the residents to fully reconstruct roadways that do not show any evidence of deterioration. " Page 3" Street Widths: I am totally amazed and surprised by the City's recommendation of increasing the street width to 30'1 At the May ]6, 2000 Review Group meeting, Greg Brown stated that if the neighborhood wanted 28' wide streets he could agree with that width. He reiterated his position during additional Review Group meetings. To my recollection, at no time did Dwayne Stafford or Greg Bro\VIl state that 30' wide streets were necessary. Because of Greg Brown's statement, this issue was not revisited thereafter at any Review Group meetings. I find it extremely unsettling and disturbing that again at the II'h hour, without any notification to the Review Group members, the City now recommends 30' wide streets. Greg Brown acknowledged at the Council's 8/21/00 meeting that he could work with 28' wide roads and that it was Dwayne Stafford who wanted the 30' wide road. I hope the Council keeps in mind that the majority of the Review Group members as well as numerous Ingerson residents believe that the current roadway width should be maintained and that Greg Brown, the City Engineer, has stated that he is agreeable to this street width. >- Page 3 Hamlind:;Josure: I have a concern about the City's statement that the speed ratings generally showed that the speed "stayed below 30 mph" after the barricades were installed. Because of the placement ofthe speed monitors (e.g. directly in front ofa stop sign), we all agreed tbat the speed readings were not valid and, therefore, should be discounted and voided. ]n otber words, the speed readings did not provide any information that could be relied upon. >- Page 3~ Fernwood ChanIlel There is nothing in the City's recommendation that addresses the fact that the area is privately ov.rned. >- Page 3, Hamline/TH 51 area: Quite frankly, I am having a hard time understanding what the City is recommending for this area. Is their recommendation to work on the wetlands between Tiller and Ingerson and the streams in the area between Hamline and Snelling and then there would be no need for a holding pond? At the 812]/00 Council work session meeting, Greg Brown presented drawings of the area depicting what he believes could be done to the area. The Council should be mindful ofthe fact that this drawing was never presented to the Review Group for consideration. Based upon the limited amount of information presented by Greg Brown, 1 do think that Greg's idea should be evaluated. >- Page 3 Rain_Q~rdens: Since June 2000, Greg Brown provided the Review Group with drawings depicting possible locations for rain gardens. All of the drawings depicted rain gardens on Ingerson Road. Based upon Greg Brown's recommendation regarding potential placement ofrain gardens, the Review Group conducted a survey of the residents asking whether or not they were acceptant of the rain garden concept. The survey was given to all residents Greg Brown indicated could be potential lots for placement of rain gardens including Ingerson Road residents. At the 8/21/00 Council work session, Greg Brown stated he did not believe rain gardens were a viable option for Ingerson Road due to the utilities running along the boulevard. Greg Brown, BRW and/or Dwayne Stafford have been reviewing tbis neighborhood since at least Oct. 1999. Assuming that utilities do run along the boulevard, 1 would have thougbt that one of these individuals would have known a long time ago that utilities lUn along the boulevard and therefore may cause a problem if rain gardens are installed. Again, we are at the 11th hour before the City states that rain gardens are not feasible on Ingerson Roadl It is my understanding that Greg Brown and Dwayne Stafford "believe" the utilities run along the boulevard. 1 personally question whether this is true. Since these types of utilities are normally laid within the street, 1 believe the first thing that should be done is determine what if any utilities lUn along the boulevards. Then determine where the utility piping is laid (how far from existing curbing if in the boulevards) and determine how deep tbe utility piping is laid. Once this information is t It It e