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. . . ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 2001 13 the applicants have had an opportunity to develop their sites with access to Amble Road or Windcrest Court in the past. Ms, Diane Gibson,1297 Windcrest Court, stated she had nothing to add, She noted she shared all the concerns about safety and flooding, She added it was her understanding that both residents had options to have an access. Ms, Mirabella stated Hamline Avenue has really become a war zone to try to get off onto. She noted none of the streets line up so there is no logical place to put in a stop light. She added the cars rev up for the ramp so the speeding there is atrocious, She stated it is way below the standard for a county road, Councilmember Larson stated he certainly could not support the concept plan as proposed given the City Engineer's comments and the comments from the Fire Department. He noted that at the same time, this area is landlocked. He added that it was part of the city that could be developed although perhaps not to the intensity shown here, He stated this configuration is the wrong one. He noted he was not sure there is a right one, He noted the applicants should be given the opportunity to review it again. He added if the applicants wish to go forward, it would be worthwhile to look at it. He stated he lived next to an empty lot for five years and he loved it. He noted the lot was eventually developed and it was sad, He added it was the owner's right to develop that property. He stated it was not totally fair to the current property owners to say they would not develop the land because the neighbors like the open space there, Councilmember Aplikowski stated landowners do have certain rights. She noted she could not support this level of development. She added she was supportive of a modified plan with a cul-de-sac at the end. She stated she did not think it was a reasonable response to say the owners had a chance for an access 20 years ago and that was their only chance, She notes she could understand concerns about the loss of open space, She added her neighbor built a fence that destroyed her view, She stated she would like to say go back to the drawing board, She noted she was not against doing something, but this is too much. Councilmember Grant stated he lived in an area with a meadow in the back. He noted he could relate to some ofthe comments, but Councilmember Larson expressed it well, He added this is a large parcel. He stated if they dropped the density they could shorten the road and might reduce the costs, He noted he was not prepared to move on this concept plan, He added he would be open to some type ofrevision, He stated he shared Councilmember Aplikowski's concerns about the road, Mayor Probst stated he served on the Planning Commission prior to being on the Council. He noted it was his recollection that there were options for access. He added that for reasons not recalled the owners chose not to pursue them, He stated