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" tt ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION - DECEMBER 6, 2006 3 to his father and the logo was being proposed to remain as depicted and is on the current . sign. He noted the only thing they might add is their phone number underneath the logo, Commissioncr Thompson askcd if American Car Care Centcrs was related to the business, Mr. Lchnhoff responded it was related to the business, Mr. Brausen noted Amcrican Car Care Centers was their franchise. He asked if thcy could speed up the timc and temperature to less than 30 seconds and then leave the advertising on for 30 seconds. Mr. Reiter, sign representative, stated if they could put the time and temperature up for 5 scconds that would be sufficient. He noted they could display both time and temperature at the same time. He noted a message for ten scconds was a long time for a messagc to display, He believed ten seconds was sufficient for a message. Chair Sand asked if he was suggesting a two mcssage change, one with time and temperature and onc with a message. Mr. Ricter responded that was COlTect. He stated they wanted to run this sign responsibly. Commissioner Larson asked if a five sccond time and temperature and a ten second message was sufficient. Mr. Reiter responded they could try that and see if it worked. Mr. Lehnhoff noted when he checked with othcr citics, those cities did not always . specifically regulate the timing of thc signage. Instead, other cities lcft it open to be determined for each sign based on location, use, and the potential for driver distraction, Chair Sand stated he believed they should leave it up to the sign cxpert as to what would work and statr could check this. Mr. Lehnhoff suggested they have a "bottom number" so staffhad some boundary to work with. Commissioner Zimmennan stated he did not want a scrolling sign and 5-10 seconds was .... dose to scrolling. He rccommended a longer period of time (i.e, 20 seconds), He noted LL this would maximize the most people coming by. Mr. Brausen stated they did not object <r to having the message on longer, but he would like the time and temperature left on for a shorter period of time, ~ Mr. Rieter suggested they just start out with a number and see how it went. Chair Sand recommended Condition 4 be revised to read: The electronic mcssage center shall not change mcssages morc frcquently th,ill once per 5 seconds and shall be subject to adjustment by the City in accordance with Condition 10 below. Mr. Brausen stated he was agrceable to this. Chair Sand moved, seconded by Commissioner Thompson to modify Condition 4 to read: The electronic message center shall not change messages more frequently than once per 5 . seconds and shall be subject to adjustment by the City in accordance with Condition 10 below. The motion carried (4-2) (Commissioners Larson and Zimmcnnan opposed).