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Special Planning Commission Meeting <br />Minutes – Wednesday, June 15, 2011 <br />Page 8 <br />adjustments would be included on a revised Regulating Map so that what was presented <br />360 <br />at that meeting would include those items discussed. <br />361 <br />Mr. Paschke advised that there was strong interest among many parties in getting <br />362 <br />something adopted; however, he opined that adopting something that wouldn’t ultimately <br />363 <br />work or had major challenges was not prudent; and assured Commissioners that the <br />364 <br />delay was due to staff’s attempts to be respectful and proactive in responding to public <br />365 <br />feedback and Commissioner thoughts and ideas. <br />366 <br />Member Boguszewski opined that he had considered the previously-presented design <br />367 <br />standards too restrictive for property owners, and was glad to see the revisions. <br />368 <br />However, Member Boguszewski expressed his concern that the City would attempt to <br />369 <br />regulate development to such an extent that it would detract from the ability to market <br />370 <br />those parcels; however, he estimated that it looked like approximately 70% of the <br />371 <br />development area was already in the flexible realm. <br />372 <br />Member Strohmeier asked staff to elaborate on why they chose urban frontage for the <br />373 <br />area on the northeast section off Fairview Avenue, whether based on it being on a corner <br />374 <br />or due to the street itself. <br />375 <br />Mr. Paschke advised that it was partly based on the corner, but also on the type of street; <br />376 <br />and was an attempt to hold some of the design principles for tucking buildings into the <br />377 <br />corner with parking behind the structure. <br />378 <br />Mr. Lamb advised that the percentage requirement for building locations was similar to <br />379 <br />that of the Twin Lakes Medical Clinic at County Road C and Fairview Avenue, as well as <br />380 <br />the carpet/tile retail use across Fairview form the clinic, with both structures pulled up <br />381 <br />closer to County Road C; with the precedent there to hold building frontages closer to the <br />382 <br />more major streets in the area. <br />383 <br />Public Comment <br />384 <br />Tony Dorso, 2814 N Cleveland Avenue <br />385 <br />Mr. Dorso advised that he owned 10.29 acres on Cleveland Avenue and County Road C; <br />386 <br />and would be the most directly affected by this proposed approach to zoning. Mr. Dorso <br />387 <br />provided a history of his property, having sold his business and leased it to a tenant in <br />388 <br />2002, and the City ultimately evicting the tenant in 2005; with the building having since <br />389 <br />sat vacant and become a liability, while he continues to pay significant property taxes on <br />390 <br />vacant ground for all practical purpose. Mr. Dorso opined that he should not have to pay <br />391 <br />for Roseville’s future vision; and that the build-to line was a particular problem for his <br />392 <br />property as currently shown on the Map. Mr. Dorso advised that this was primarily based <br />393 <br />on soil conditions on County Road C-2 at the end of the property; and any developers <br />394 <br />looking at the property had taken the approach that they would put parking on that <br />395 <br />section to avoid a higher level of environmental cleanup, significantly increasing <br />396 <br />development costs. Mr. Dorso advised that he is in potential flex area, and that it was <br />397 <br />unrealistic to think that someone would buy his 10-plus acres and put up one (1) building <br />398 <br />with normal setbacks, but that they would probably put up multiple structures, creating a <br />399 <br />problem due to the existing soil conditions. <br />400 <br />Mr. Dorso advised that it was problematic for him to be dictated to by the City telling that <br />401 <br />it a developer would have to pay $2.5 million as a development fee to proceed with <br />402 <br />development of that parcel, when property experts were telling him it was only worth $3 <br />403 <br />million, and would cost $500,000 to demolish the existing structure. Mr. Dorso opined that <br />404 <br />the City should not be driving up the cost to develop these parcels, and understood the <br />405 <br />intent of the proposed design vision; however, he didn’t feel that he was responsible to <br />406 <br />pay for that vision. Mr. Dorso further opined that if the City has a long-term vision and <br />407 <br />desires to develop public areas, it should not be something land owners had to pay for; it <br />408 <br />should be paid for by the City. <br />409 <br />Mr. Dorso noted the often-repeated perspective that today’s economic woes are based <br />410 <br />on too many regulations, essentially destroying the economy and causing less <br />411 <br />development activity. As Mr. Dorso noted he had asked staff earlier today, how much <br />412 <br /> <br />
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