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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,January 09,2012 Page 10 Schwartz, and a former City Attorney) for training for use of BVPM for the geo- thermal project did not suffice and needed to be repeated at this time at an addi- tional cost. Mr. Brokke advised that state law required training for BVPM; and at the time of the geothermal project, this law was new, only having been enacted in 2007, with the geothermal project taking place in 2008; and current by ASU training allowed for three (3) people. Mr. Brokke noted that Mr. Schwartz and Mr. Evenson were certified in the BVPM; and at the request of Mayor Roe, advised that ASU worked with the City throughout the entire geothermal project on programming and documentation. At the request of Councilmember Johnson, Mr. Brokke clarified that Mr. Evenson and Mr. Schwartz were trained and certified to move forward with the process, with no new training required; however, ASU still needed to be involved. Mr. Brokke noted that Mr. Evenson and Mr. Schwarz would receive refresher training, with one additional person receiving training. Councilmember Pust requested further clarification on why the current training was insufficient; and whether simply purchasing the $15,000 license was neces- sary. Mr. Evenson advised that the previous geothermal project was not large enough to warrant the license fee, and the ASU invoice was for basic training only; and did not include a contract for future services or licensure. Mr. Evenson advised that ASU required their involvement in a project, since their software was proprietary, with the original training simply providing for methodology training, and not providing access to their proprietary software program or how to use their system. Mr. Evenson noted that in the geothermal project, ASU did this for the City; but now this would allow training on the process and software and the methodology of their system. At the request of Mayor Roe, Mr. Brokke advised that the cost of ASU services on the$2 million geothermal project had been approximately$10,000. At the request of Councilmember Johnson, Mr. Evenson advised that at the end of this process, the City would then be in the position originally thought they were in by Councilmember Pust. Mr. Evenson advised that for certain future qualified projects, trained staff could proceed. Mr. Evenson clarified that, in the geother- mal project, trained City staff participated in interviewing and choosing contrac- tors and the methodology,but ASU actually crunched the numbers. Councilmember McGehee questioned the need for Best Value Practices (BVP) other than for planned building construction; and questioned the need for using it for replacement of playground equipment, fencing or other minor projects. Coun-