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HRA Meeting <br />Minutes – Tuesday, January 17, 2012 <br />Page 4 <br />1 <br />socio-economic situations of any of the four complexes, and attributed the two (2) more time- <br />2 <br />consuming complexes for the Police Department to the lack of aggressive eviction of problem <br />3 <br />tenants. <br />4 <br />5 <br />Roseville Fire Chief Tim O’Neill prefaced his comments from his frame of reference based on <br />6 <br />twenty-three (23) years of experience with the Roseville Fire Department. Chief O’Neill <br />7 <br />advised that the Fire Department had been inside all four (4) apartment complexes numerous <br />8 <br />times, and noted the deterioration in the buildings that he and his fellow firefighters had <br />9 <br />observed over that timeframe. Chief O’Neill noted that the Fire Department didn’t evaluate <br />10 <br />the buildings on fire call volumes, but on the perspective of life safety and effects observed, <br />11 <br />alluding to the need for implementation of a fire inspection program for multi-family buildings <br />12 <br />that Fire Marshal Loftus would address during his portion of tonight’s discussion. <br />13 <br />14 <br />From a life safety perspective, Chief O’Neill advised that his department evaluated the <br />15 <br />condition of a building, obvious deterioration in the structure itself, if the structure met fire and <br />16 <br />building codes, quick fire suppression and responses available on-site, and occupancy loads; <br />17 <br />and noted how those items had changed over the years, specifically in two (2) of the <br />18 <br />complexes referenced by Chief Mathwig. Chief O’Neill also noted that the same number of <br />19 <br />units was occupied more densely in population per unit, creating more risk to firefighters and <br />20 <br />resident so those units and complexes. Chief O’Neill noted that, over the last five (5) years, <br />21 <br />there had been an explosion of populations in multi-family units, opining that the economy had <br />22 <br />something to do with it, as well as cultural aspects of some of the community’s diverse <br />23 <br />population groups. <br />24 <br />25 <br />Discussion among HRA members and members of the panel included cultural and socio- <br />26 <br />economic reasons for more people per unit; occupancy limits per square footage for bedroom <br />27 <br />space, as well as limitations on unrelated persons per unit addressed in City Code, and some <br />28 <br />lease agreements; occupancy per unit correlations with those complexes having effective <br />29 <br />management on site to monitor occupancy levels per unit; and current lack of ability for staff <br />30 <br />to verify and enforce occupancy compliance and reporting requirements without access to the <br />31 <br />units and limited to exterior and common area inspections only. <br />32 <br />33 <br />Mr. Trudgeon advised that the City’s current ordinances were inadequate from an enforcement <br />34 <br />perspective for staff and needed to be amended across the board, but how to do so the most <br />35 <br />effectively remained in flux. <br />36 <br />37 <br />Roseville Fire Marshal John Loftus prefaced his comments from his frame of reference based <br />38 <br />on twenty-two (22) years as a Fire Marshal, and concurred with previous comments. Marshal <br />39 <br />Loftus noted that the multi-family complexes were new construction when he first came on <br />40 <br />board, but now many of the units, if not the structures themselves,, should no longer be <br />41 <br />considered fit for occupancy. Marshal Loftus concurred that it was professional management <br />42 <br />on-site that kept the buildings on track; and while able to inspect common areas in those <br />43 <br />buildings on an annual basis with the vast majority in good shape, there were some troubling <br />44 <br />areas. However, Marshal Loftus noted that staff’s hands were tied, since they were not <br />45 <br />authorized to inspect the units, nor were there financial and/or personnel resources available to <br />46 <br />do so at this time, other than in those common areas; or could staff address occupant loads in <br />47 <br />those units. At the request of Chair Maschka, Marshal Loftus defined common areas as the <br />48 <br />hallways and gathering areas, mechanical and boiler rooms, heating plant, and alarm systems. <br />49 <br />50 <br />Building Code Enforcement Officer Don Munson noted the number of apartment buildings <br />51 <br />located in Roseville, with the vast majority in good shape, and only a few in poor shape. Mr. <br />52 <br />Munson advised that exterior inspection violations were similar across the city, typically <br />53 <br />unlicensed vehicles, junk or debris on-site; and were typical of those buildings not well- <br />54 <br />managed, creating building maintenance issues being observed at those same buildings, <br />55 <br />varying in their severity depending on the upkeep of each specific building or complex. Mr. <br /> <br />