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." O1111 <br />491 <br />Member Stenlund suggested that all impervious surfaces should be included; <br />492 <br />however, he noted the need to prioritize them based on discharge loads. Member <br />493 <br />Stenlund suggested the need to get the public involved in being sweepers of those <br />494 <br />impervious surfaces; not to rely on City employees to do so. Member Stenlund <br />495 <br />opined that there was a significant amount of education yet required to help <br />496 <br />residents understand what constituted illicit discharges, and how to get that <br />497 <br />component to the knowledge of the general public. <br />498 <br />forgiveness rather than ask for permission; and the need to make people aware <br />499 <br />At the request of Member Gjerdingen, Ms. Bloom advised that the City's <br />500 <br />nuisance ordinance addressed trash on commercial and other properties. <br />501 <br />when the majority of residents were attempting to follow the rules for the <br />502 <br />In Policy No. 5, Chair Vanderwall noted the need to address small spills on <br />503 <br />private property, not just public property; with Ms. loom advising that the City's <br />504 <br />illicit discharge ordinance also referen hat. <br />505 <br />10 <br />506 <br />Member Stenlund noted the need for all City staff, not ju ropriate City staff, <br />507 <br />to be able to recognize problem areas, providing more eyes ars for the staff <br />508 <br />responsible to be made aware of problem nd address them. ber Stenlund <br />509 <br />suggested a team approach with more eyes available when driving around the City <br />510 <br />on their daily work assignments, and the need to teach them what to look for. <br />511 <br />512 <br />Mr. Leaf suggested "walking the walk" and leading by example. <br />513 <br />514 <br />Chair Vanderwall suggested that the narrative Goal Statement could emphasize <br />515 <br />prevention, since prevention eliminated the need for more maintenance; and have <br />516 <br />the policies engender public awarenes to prevent and reduce maintenance costs. <br />517 <br />518 <br />Mem er e noted the ever - increasing attitude that it was better to seek <br />519 <br />forgiveness rather than ask for permission; and the need to make people aware <br />520 <br />that this is not always the case. Member DeBenedet noted that this needed to be <br />521 <br />part of the education process to avoid having flagrant disregard of rules by some <br />522 <br />when the majority of residents were attempting to follow the rules for the <br />523 <br />betterment of the overall I community. <br />524 <br />525 <br />Member Felice concurred, noting that many of those decisions caused permanent <br />526 <br />damage and had considerable negative consequences. <br />527 <br />528 Member Stenlund suggested including winter management in this section, not just <br />529 summer management (e.g. snow storage); with Ms. Bloom advising that this was <br />530 included Policy No. 7 and as part of the Implementation section as well. Ms. <br />531 Bloom noted the need, however, to include all property owners, not just residents <br />532 in those discussion and implementation. <br />533 <br />Page 12 of 18 <br />