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■ Regular City Council Meeting Monday, April 15, 2013 Page 17 levy amounts, and significant changes in each department. Mayor Roe suggested that information be made available, at least no later than between the City Manag- er-recommended budget was presented but prior to budget hearings for the Sep- tember Preliminary not-to-exceed Levy being established. Mayor Roe noted the need for a better understanding and evaluation of those specifics and a more de- tailed discussion as part of the ultimate decision-making process. While past decisions incorporated a biennium budget going forward, Coun- cilmember Laliberte requested staff's delineation of those items budgeted for but not spent to-date; and asked that those items be specifically highlighted and point- ed out by staff. To the extent possible, City Manager Malinen, Malinen noted 2012 carryover op- erations had been funded significantly by position vacancies, and once provided for in 2013, the question remained as to whether they were part of the 2014 base- line. Mr. Malinen opined that staff had done a good job to-date in separating out operational versus capital for budget purposes. Mayor Roe noted that this was what former Councilmember Pust had requested; and asked that staff not lose sight of that in other parts of the budget process; and as a hopefully innovative organization, it was continuing to learn efficiencies and not carry things over automatically, but provide a new number to carry forward. Mayor Roe noted that the quarterly reports provided by staff were helpful, but un- fortunately the later 2013 reports would not provide information soon enough for the 2014 budget,but should be helpful with a biennial budget. Councilmember Willmus concurred with Mayor Roe, while Councilmembers Laliberte and McGehee remained unconvinced with the process. Councilmember McGehee opined that what she and Councilmember Laliberte were seeking was more transparency beyond this format rather than "silent man- agement" through a duplication of administrative services within departments. Councilmember McGehee expressed her frustration in not being able to determine that or review that level; and opined that she had ideas outside of this setting, but this format didn't allow that level of review that she and Councilmember Laliber- te were seeking. In all of the rating exercises, Councilmember McGehee noted that it didn't consider the dollars. Councilmember McGehee also referenced dif- ferent opinions of residents on what was or was not an amenity in the community; and those things that may not rank highly, but brought in revenue to the City, but also were services that were highly valued or important to the Roseville commu- nity itself(e.g. License Center). Councilmember Willmus noted Finance Director's Miller's provision of the pro- jected surplus or money carried over from 2012 and available for use in 2013; and