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Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes – Wednesday, March 6, 2013 Page 5 Member Gisselquist questioned if a business needed outdoor storage to sell their product, it 199 made sense that it was part of their retail display and made sense; however, he noted that there 200 could be additional issues to consider. 201 Mr. Paschke advised that the greater clarify provided the easier for staff to enforce. The example 202 of United Rentals, considered outdoor storage needing screening created difficulties in their 203 relocation to other areas in Roseville outside the Industrial District, with that still having 204 restrictions on how things were stored. While part of their business model was not much different 205 than new car sales, as they rented equipment and at some point may sell it and want to do so on 206 their site and out front, Mr. Paschke noted that this could create an issue. Mr. Paschke 207 questioned if this was a situation that the Commission would choose to remain open and not 208 require screening; or designate only in certain zoning districts, but permitted anywhere within that 209 particular district. Also, another distinction pointed out by Mr. Paschke was new cars, nice looking 210 used cars, and other types of equipment or semi tractors, whether new or used, as well as other 211 products. Mr. Paschke advised that these were just a few of the challenges facing staff in 212 interpreting current code. 213 Chair Boerigter brought up hardware stores with pallets used for storage of merchandise and 214 often not screened or screened in areas without the eight foot (8’) high fence. 215 Mr. Paschke advised that those were typically allowed and regulated under seasonal uses under 216 code, much like mulch piles in gas stations. 217 Chair Boerigter questioned how lumber and other materials usually stored outside at a business 218 such as Menards or Home Depot would be addressed, or if they were only allowed uses in 219 Industrial Districts. 220 Mr. Paschke advised that they would currently only be allowed in Industrial Districts, with some 221 restrictions. 222 Mr. Lloyd advised that this very issue had come up during staff’s review of the WalMart site plan, 223 with their unroofed outdoor garden center; and while it may seem similar to an outdoor display at 224 gas stations, perhaps an important distinction was needed. 225 Mr. Lloyd addressed another recent question for staff of a company that took in vehicles from 226 accidents that had been totaled by the insurance company, held on site, and eventually auctioned 227 elsewhere. While recognizing that no one wanted to see them stored on site, and the company 228 was willing to install a screen wall, and it was in the vicinity of auto dealers along I-35W in a 229 Regional Business District, Mr. Lloyd questioned if the City wanted a similar application with a 230 barricade wall in the Regional Business District across the street from Rosedale. Mr. Lloyd 231 suggested that geographical content needed to be considered as well, with some uses and areas 232 more critical and some not. However, Mr. Lloyd cautioned that you couldn’t just talk about motor 233 vehicles and their display, whether rental cars or new vehicles at a dealership and part of your 234 display, but not considered outdoor storage. 235 Chair Boerigter also noted some larger hardware stores that may sell equipment (e.g. snow 236 blowers) with only room for several inside, and additional units stored in crates outside. Chair 237 Boerigter questioned if that was objectionable should be based on location, or not permissible at 238 all as outdoor storage. 239 Member Gisselquist expressed his interest in a distinction between outdoor “display” and outdoor 240 “storage.” 241 Mr. Paschke suggested temporary display and storage consideration as well. 242 Chair Boerigter provided another example for storage of equipment brought in for refurbishing or 243 modification. 244 Mr. Lloyd used United Rental again as an example of a businesses with the need to display their 245 good, quality equipment and in good working order contrasting that to a contractor yard with 246 equipment stored that was in less quality condition, and perhaps inoperable. 247