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. � -, Bryan Lloyd From: Don Munson Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:51 AM To: Bryan Lloyd Subject: RE: The Woof Room Hi Bryan, My main concern, and objection, is the outdoor play area for 80 dogs where they will 'relieve' themselves and the potential for odors. I just don't see how this will not create offensive odors that will result in complaints. Maybe not all the time, but on those hot, sultry days, or when the wind is blowing just right. Ramsey County Health Dept gets complaints about odors from one dog next door, let alone 40-80 dogs. Can you imagine the uproar if 80 employees were going outside in this area to relieve themselves? It would obviously be considered a public health danger. Is this that much different? I don't think the neighbors will think so; some have sitting areas down by the fence, they will find this activity and the smell very offensive. Neither the health dept nor the City Code have a specific regulation prohibiting this, likely because these enterprises are new and they were not anticipated. However, I would site City Code Sections 407.01 Nuisance ('Any...matter emission ...which creates a...unhealthy condition or which threatens the public...health...or sanitary condition of the City or which is offensive...") and 407.02 D. (which prohibits depositing manure on private property) as reasons to deny the outdoor aspect. Don -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:29 AM To: Don Munson Subject: RE: The Woof Room Here's what the applicant had to say about the number of dogs (remember, too, that the dogs are segregated by size and play style and that only one of these smaller groups would be outside at any one time): we are expecting an average of 40 dogs per day at the daycare, but can accommodate as many as 80 dogs per day. 7he first year, we likely would have much less, closer to an average of 20 dogs per day. Since our first year will likely have a smaller number of dogs, that will allow plenty of time (before our business grows to serve its projected full capacity) to see if there are any issues with noise and enable us to accommodate for any such noise that may occur. If individuals are still concerned with noise - or are having a difficult time imagining a large number of dogs in such an environment, I'd invite them to tour Pampered Pooch (located in St. Louis Park) which houses an average of 80 dogs per day. If they don't have time for an in-person tour, then they should take a look at one of their webcams - http://pamperedpoochplayground.com/ (click "webcams" in top right corner) and they will have the opportunity to see for themselves that this is very common and will notice the dogs are not barking - simply playing with each other. I'd also be happy to arrange for a tour of a Twin Cities dog daycare for any individuals that are interested or have concerns so that they may experience for themselves the noise levels that exist near and within the daycare. i