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Councilmember McGehee concurred with the comments of Mayor Roe regarding immigration reform; and suggested an educational forum by other members of the community, not necessarily put on by the HRC, but with the HRC possibly providing or finding a meeting venue for such an educational program. Specific to Councilmember Etten's comments on those outline items falling under the auspices of a Civic Engagement Task Force versus the HRC, Councilmember McGehee stated that she did not support a separate Civic Engagement Commission at this time. Councilmember McGehee opined that it was the job of all residents and city government to perform those civic engagement efforts; since the job was better accomplished when people are drawn together by a common thread. Councilmember McGehee opined that the efforts of the Civic Engagement Task Force were very useful and had brought many things forward, some of which had already been implemented and others in the process; and had brought out the need for more methods for community outreach necessary for all commissioners in their respective commissions, as well as on the part of staff and the City Council. As part of the proposed Administration Department reorganization and review and reconsideration of all commissions and a recommendation by the Subcommittee, Councilmember McGehee suggested that engagement of different aspects of the community be a goal of the entire community and residents, not just commissioners. Councilmember McGehee suggested that more community involvement and fewer commissions was her preference, while recognizing that the City had a good base of Commissions; and expressed her appreciation and respect of their respective efforts. Councilmember McGehee reiterated her appreciation of the initial work of the Civic Engagement Task Force and their formal report that already initiated some things, and led the way to improved community outreach. Councilmember McGehee also seconded Mayor Roe's comment on the need to celebrate all of the City's various ethnic groups. Mayor Roe advised that he would defer his comments on his personal preferences related to a Civic Engagement Commission until he heard the recommendations of the Subcommittee; admitting that he was uncommitted at this time. Mayor Roe stated that while he saw some merit to having two commissions, he remained unsure of their specific workloads or tasks. Mayor Roe thanked the HRC for their attendance tonight and the good discussion; and for the benefit of the public, Chair Grefenberg provided contact information for the HRC. 0