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�!M <br />219 Mr. Miller noted two (2) additional and related memorandums for the attention of <br />220 the PWETC: Attachment A dated October 4, 2013 entitled "Water Conservation <br />221 Rates;" and Attachment B dated October 4, 2013 entitled, "Utility Bill Senior <br />222 Discount Program." Mr. Miller sought discussion and review of both subjects for <br />223 reference prior to City Council review. <br />224 <br />225 Water Conservation Rates <br />226 Mr. Miller briefly summarized this tiered rate program and questioned if it was <br />227 meeting the original goals or how those goals could be effectively measured. Mr. <br />228 Miller noted that he and Mr. Schwartz continued discussions among themselves <br />229 as to whether or not this made sense or how residents could be better incentivized <br />230 to use less water; and how to implement a rate structure that would achieve that <br />231 goal. Mr. Miller advised that his memorandum was intended as an introduction <br />232 for policy discussions by the City Council, and invited the PWETC to weigh in to <br />233 those discussions. Mr. Miller noted that the underlying premise was to address <br />234 excessive water usage versus normal daily household use; and admitted the <br />235 challenges in putting that into a rate structure that would incent people to use less <br />236 water. Mr. Miller noted further challenges based on the number of people in a <br />237 given household, as well as their use philosophy; and how to treat everyone <br />238 equitably without penalizing them for good water use behave <br />239 hk <br />240 Mr. Schwartz n ed that the PWEC had originally spent considerable time on this <br />241 issue, and ma equent recommendation to the City Council; but due to the <br />242 status of t9e service y with the St. Paul Regional Water Board, the City <br />243 Council had chosen not to accept the PWETC recommendation at that time, <br />244 which indicated some support for a single tiered water rate system. Mr. Schwartz <br />245 noted that the results of that study had proven favorable to the City of Roseville <br />246 for 2013; with recommended increases for 2014, as previously noted by Mr. <br />247 Miller. From that staff perspective, Mr. Schwartz advised that staff was <br />248 recommending retaining the same rate structure at this time. <br />249 <br />250 <br />Member Stenlund suggested exploring the concept if someone wrote off <br />251 <br />dependents on their taxes; look at the value to reward their water usage based on <br />252 <br />that; with a recommendation to standardize rate values to reward conservation on <br />253 <br />a per person is. <br />254 <br />255 <br />Mr. Miller note e challenge to create a system that didn't penalize for <br />256 <br />conservation but for higher usage; and noted the difficulty in doing so on a house - <br />257 <br />to -house basis or means tested based on household size. Mr. Miller noted that it <br />258 <br />was logistically challenging to do a household by household comparison; <br />259 <br />however, he admitted that he hadn't thought that scenario through at this point. <br />260 <br />261 <br />Chair Vanderwall noted that usage wasn't necessarily based on the number of <br />262 <br />children alone, but could be parents or others living in a household; or a family <br />263 <br />doing multiple loads of laundry and higher water usage, but not significant usage <br />Page 6 of 22 <br />