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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, December 2, 2013 Page 10 provide the City with a windfall from that, as well as in the Parks Renewal Pro- gram and bonding money, since it would not be paying sales tax on park equip- ment. Mr. Mulder questioned if the City was spending that windfall on additional equipment or what, and while that may be appropriate, he opined that it should be a conscious City Council discussion and decision and very transparent for the public. Mr. Mulder opined that similar transparency was needed in the highway department, since they were not paying sales tax on salt, sand or other disposa- bles. Mr. Mulder opined that the budget became an odd piece that wasn't serving the City Council well; and encouraged them to spend more time using dollar differ- ences versus percentages, since statistics could be very illusive and less effective than real dollars. Roger Toogood, 601 Terrace Court Mr. Toogood expressed appreciation for Mr. Trudgeon's response to the growth of the 65 plus demographics in Roseville; and displayed some of those de- mographics, as well as providing them to staff, showing the percentage of change in Ramsey County population from 2010 to 2030 based on Census and MN State Demographic Center data; noting the high percentages shown for the City of Ro- seville. Based on his work with the North Suburban Senior Council, Mr. Too- good suggested that the City establish a Senior Task Force to further study this is- sue from identifying needs as well as funding sources to address those future needs. Mr. Toogood noted that the services of the Senior Council would be changing to the School District. Mr. Toogood advised that he would continue to meet with area cities and school districts to bring this information to their atten- tion as well, anticipating they would work effectively and cooperatively with north suburban communities. Gary Grefenberg, 91 Mid Oaks Lane Mr. Grefenberg referenced his levy increase information used in his Roseville Is- sues Forum comments, previously noted as a bench handout. Mr. Grefenberg ex- pressed his grave concern over this collective amount of levy increases since 2008 compared to the City of St. Paul providing a zero levy increase for 2014. Mr. Grefenberg suggested that the City's reserve funds needed to be addressed to tap into them to reduce the proposed levy and thereby use reserves for property tax relief, none of which had been seen during the recession years. Mr. Grefenberg referenced the December 3, 2012 City Council meeting minutes showing a com- parable situation. Mr. Grefenberg expressed appreciation for the legislature capping levy increases this year, as well as for the more comprehensive budget information provided by staff this year.