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Planning Files - Planning File #
2886
Planning Files - Type
Variance
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1665 COUNTY ROAD C W
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ROSEDALE SQAURE
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042923440015
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<br />ROSEVILLE PKS/REC <br /> <br />Fax:612-628-0927 <br /> <br />Feb 12 '97 <br /> <br />8:44 <br /> <br />P.Ol <br /> <br />",,, <br /> <br />~ of RosevUle <br />Community Development Department <br /> <br />Mem.o <br />Apr 12, 1995 <br /> <br />TO: <br />FROM: <br />RE: <br /> <br />Steve Sarkozy, City Manager <br />DeRoD Webch, CommuDity Development Director (490-2232) <br />Sign Code aad the John ROle Mionelota Oval <br /> <br />You have asked for further information on how the City Sign Code applies to the John Rose <br />Minnesota Oval, based on questions raised at the April 10, 1995 Council Meeting. <br /> <br />. . <br /> <br />Section 140.010 does state that all signs need permits. In 1993 Planning and Park statfrequested <br />an interpretation of the code from the city attorney, "Does the scoreboard and advertising <br />surrounding it constitute a "sign"? This issue was discussed with the Planning Commission and <br />placed on file as needing no further action. The reasoning of the city attorney and the staffwas <br />that signs placed inside a facility such as the Oval were not signs as defined by the Code {and <br />therefore did not need permits} for the following reasons: <br /> <br />1) The definition of "sign", Section 14.020(1), specifically states that such a sign must be <br />affixed to the ou.tJide of tbe building or other lurface. The Oval scoreboard and advertising is <br />within a gated, controlled structure and directs its messages only to the participants within or <br />inside the facility. . <br /> <br />2) Past practice has been to interpret signage and time clocks in outdoor football and <br />baseball stadiums/fields as part of the interior of the facility. Permits have not been required for <br />such apparatus. If permits were required, each school'ball field, church play lot; park play field, <br />and hockey rink which has a scoreboard would be required to take out a sign permit(s). <br /> <br />. 3) The concept of "signage inside a structure not requiring a sign permit" implies that the <br />signage within an enclosed structure is only marginally visible ( if at all) to the drive-by or walk-by <br />traffic from outside the structure. Examples are signage within Rosedale Shopping and Har-Mar <br />Center as well as signage within theaters, bowling alleys, and ice arenas. The signage is directed <br />to the captured audience. not to the public or public right-of-way outside the facility. <br /> <br />A comment at the meeting implied that the Oval sign age was an "advertising sign" as per Section <br />14.020(4) which directs attention to a'product or service not .old on tbe lite. The sign <br />surrounding the scoreboard inside the Oval premises currently advertises a product (Coke) sold to. <br />or used by the captured audience. Future sisnage presumably would do the same. <br /> <br />A question was raised as to whether the Oval sign was a "Wall Sign" as described in Section <br />14.020(5}. It is unclear where a specific wall is located around the Oval. It is staffs understanding <br />that the proposed signage would be used as freestanding hockey bOards. wind screens, and site <br />. furniture/fixtures) again, normally.visible only to the" captured audience". <br /> <br />1 <br />
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