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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,November 17, 2014 Page 19 were impacts to the City for its current philosophy as well as impacts to the City if and when it considered a change. Mayor Roe asked that the PWETC review both issues and make recommendations accordingly. City Manager Trudgeon and Public Works Director Duane Schwartz both duly noted that request. At the request of Councilmember McGehee, she asked that the Finance Commis- sion, when doing their computations on options for funding the CIP, asked that they calculate how much the City would lose by eliminating churches and schools, opining that she had no big issue with that, with churches not being big water users, even though schools would be, but they were all important to the community. Councilmember McGehee opined that this would serve to put every- one on the same playing field, and could add to the commodity itself, and pass it through in a straightforward manner and provide an additional cushion through an increased price. Mayor Roe opined that it made sense to have those numbers, as well as how many non-profit customers there were in the City. Mayor Roe noted that it did get into to the fairness question; and whether it was fairer to have people pay on the value of their property or frontage along the line, or on the basis of having a connection to the water/sewer system in the first place. Mayor Roe further noted that another consideration was the fairness in shifting costs from non-profits to those affected by periodic legislative changes, or if a safer, more reliable funding source was available when dealing with a regressive tax system versus a regressive fee sys- tem. Mayor Roe asked that the Finance Commission provide their feedback on the equity and fairness of any options; which from his perspective, all entered into the picture. Mayor Roe opined that, if changes were made to fund the CIP, they needed to make sense, and needed feedback from many public voices, with the Finance Commission in a position to provide that analysis. 2015 Utility Rate Feedback for Staff Councilmember Willmus stated that he was not as concerned with the proposed rates as he was with the discount program; opining that the City Council may have set the threshold low,but didn't know what the threshold should be set at. At the request of Councilmember Willmus, Finance Director Miller advised that 2,300 Roseville households currently received the senior discount; with staff pro- jecting 50 households qualifying for the income-based discount based on review of census data on household income, and subtracting those households who wouldn't apply for the discount based on their financial need. Councilmember Laliberte questioned how much staff time would be required if there was an appeal process in place.