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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,November 17, 2014 Page 22 tions while ensuring the continuing safety of the Roseville community and emer- gency situations. Further discussion included current call-back responses of forty, and future pro- jections at a similar rate, anticipating no more than twenty calls annually for larg- er fire responses and under auto aid agreements with the Cities of St. Paul and/or Maplewood; and minimum wages paid according to contract for call backs when officers are off duty. Additional discussion included shift times; responsibilities of battalion chiefs in the future and those chores currently handled at night by part-time supervisors; proposed change in command staff to three battalion chiefs under the reorganiza- tion plan and the current inspector position eventually eliminated; and changes in administrative duties and time compared to current call outs or training or opera- tional to fully administrative positions. Discussion ensued regarding pros and cons for full-time and part-time, or a com- bination model; changes through attrition and impacts on hiring for future fire- fighters; and how to balance full- and part-time firefighters; with no hiring done of firefighters over the last two years in anticipation of this changing staffing model. Considerable discussion was held regarding the thirty-seven firefighters currently in the Fire Relief Association, in addition to retirees; and potential financial im- pacts as that sunsets in its current format and how those pension payouts would impact funding of the program, and based on the timing for this discussion to lim- it those liabilities through a minimum 3-4 year transition period with preliminary discussions with the Relief Association and the Relief Fund funded in excess of 100% at this time; and new firefighters coming in under the Public Employees Retirement Association(PERA)pension umbrella. Mayor Roe expressed appreciation for Chief O'Neill's explanation and discus- sion, noting that the City could not unilaterally dissolve the Relief Association, and recognized that under all three options, those numbers were built in, as well as addressing how the 2% received from the state could and would be used, as part of the 2% tax applied throughout Minnesota for property insurance and dis- tributed to Relief Associations. Mayor Roe expressed his support for Chief O'Neill's proposed transition timeline and model. Councilmember Laliberte expressed her appreciation to Chief O'Neill for coming prepared to these meetings and in providing the information requested, under var- ious scenarios. Councilmember Laliberte advised that she was not prepared to make a decision on this matter tonight.