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Regular City Council Meeting Minutes
City Hall Council Chambers, 2660 Civic Center Drive
Monday, December 8, 2014
1. Roll Call
Mayor Roe called the meeting to order at approximately 6:00 p.m. Voting and Seating
Order: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe. City Manager Patrick Trudgeon
and City Attorney Mark Gaughan were also present.
2. Approve Agenda
Laliberte moved, McGehee seconded, removal of Item 13.d from tonight's agenda for
separate consideration and as part of a broader discussion of the Twin Lakes redevelop-
ment Area that the City Council had previously promised residents.
Councilmember Willmus spoke in opposition to the motion, stating that he wanted to al-
low discussion of that item this evening.
Mayor Roe spoke in opposition to the motion, stating that this was a different topic, with
previous discussions regarding input from residents more related to uses and zoning.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte and McGehee.
Nays: Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Motion failed.
Laliberte moved, Willmus seconded, moving Business Action Items 1, d and d before
Item 12 Budget Items on tonight's agenda.
Councilmember Laliberte also requested moving Business Action Item to approve or de-
ny expanded hours for on-sale brewer taproom establishments immediately following the
public hearing. Councilmember Laliberte advised that her rationale in these agenda ad-
justments was based on residents in the audience who may wish to speak to these items
without having to stay too late and not having any comment on the budget discussion that
may be lengthier.
Councilmember Willmus spoke in opposition to the motion.
Councilmember Etten spoke in opposition to the motion, noting the estimated times listed
on the public agenda, with changes possibly making things more confusion or having
that item occur prior to a resident's arrival to speak to a specific item, basing their arrival
on projected times.
Mayor Roe noted that often the City Council took action on an item immediately follow-
ing the public hearing without formally adjusting the agenda.
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Since it appeared that the motion would fail and was not supported by the seconder of the
motion, Councilmember Laliberte withdrew her motion.
Councilmember McGehee requested removal of Items 7.f and 7.j from the Consent
Agenda for separate consideration.
Councilmember Etten requested removal of Item 7.g from the Consent Agenda for sepa-
rate consideration.
Etten moved, Willmus seconded approval of the agenda as amended.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
3. Public Comment
Mayor Roe called for public comment by members of the audience on any non-agenda
items. No one appeared to speak.
4. Council Communications, Reports, and Announcements
Mayor Roe announced previews of new park buildings on December 16 (Lexington Park
Shelter) and December 17 (Sandcastle Park at 3060 Patton Road) from 6:30 to 8:00 p.m.
with light refreshments served.
Mayor Roe announced the upcoming Minnesota Wild practice at the OVAL on Decem-
ber 12 from 9:00 a.m. to Noon, with the Wild on the ice at 11:00 a.m.; with family activi-
ties planned during those hours, including free skating with skate rentals.
Mayor Roe announced donation opportunities for winter clothing sponsored by the Rose-
ville Visitors Association in conjunction with OVALumination events; with donations
accepted throughout the winter months and drop boxes located in various areas of the
OVAL.
5. Recognitions,Donations and Communications
Finance Director Chris Miller introduced the City's new Assistant Finance Director Jason
Shermacher to Councilmembers and the public.
6. Approve Minutes
Comments and corrections to draft minutes had been submitted by the City Council
prior to tonight's meeting and those revisions were incorporated into the draft present-
ed in the Council packet
a. Approve Minutes of November 10,2014 Meeting
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McGehee moved, Etten seconded, approval of the Meeting Minutes of December
1, 2014 as amended.
Corrections:
• Page 2,Lines 11 - 12 (Laliberte)
Correct to read: ".... be hosting the March of 2015 meeting at the Roseville
Fire Station in the training room[.] ,at which time [TJhe [January] agenda
[will]would include meeting with state legislators..."
• Page 25, Line 19 (McGehee)
Typographical correction: "... to..."
• Page 26,Line 1 (Willmus)
Typographical correction: add"Willmus" after Councilmember...
Roll Call
Ayes:Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
7. Approve Consent Agenda
There were no additional changes to the Consent Agenda than those previously noted. At
the request of Mayor Roe, City Manager Patrick Trudgeon briefly reviewed those items
being considered under the Consent Agenda.
a. Approve Payments
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, approval of the following claims and pay-
ments as presented and detailed in the Request for Council Action (RCA) dated
December 8, 2014, and attached check register.
ACH Payments $405,289.59
75903 —75996 199,859.92
TOTAL $605,149.51
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
b. Approve Business Licenses & Other Licenses & Permits
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, approval of business license applications
for the period of one (1) year, unless otherwise noted, for applicants as listed in
the RCA dated December 8, 2014.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
c. Approve Resolution Awarding Bid for 2015 Sanitary Sewer Main Lining
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Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11192 (Attach-
ment A) entitled, "Resolution Awarding Bids for 2015 Sanitary Sewer Main Lin-
ing;" to Insituform Technologies USA, LLC in the amount of$856,787.00.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
d. Consider not Waiving Statutory Liability Limits for 2015
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, approval of a motion to NOT waive the
Statutory Liability Limits for 2015.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
e. Consider Approving a Three-Year Audit Services Agreement with kern
DeWenter Viere (KDV)
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, authorizing staff to enter into a three-year
agreement for audit services with KDV as presented and detailed in the RCA dat-
ed December 8, 2014.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
h. Consider Approving a Premises Permit to Destination Education & Scholar-
ship Foundation to Conduct Lawful Gambling Activities at 1754 Lexington
Avenue (OP Mexico Restaurant)
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11199 (Attach-
ment A) entitled, "Resolution Approving a Lawful Gambling Premise Permit to
Destination Education, A Scholarship Foundation;" granting a premises permit to
conduct lawful gambling activities at 1754 N Lexington Avenue (01' Mexico
Restaurant) by DESF, a new non-profit organization formerly operating under the
name of the North Suburban youth Foundation(NSYF).
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
Centennial lakes Police IT Shared Services Agreement
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded„ approval of a Shared Services Agreement
(Attachment A) with Centennial Lakes Police for the purpose of providing Infor-
mation Technology Support Services.
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k. Fire Department & Allina Health Emergency Medical Services Medical Di-
rection and Oversight Contract Extension Agreement
Willmus moved, McGehee seconded, authorizing the Fire Department to enter in-
to a contract extension (Attachment A) with Allina Health Emergency Medical
Services for medical oversight and education for a period of ninety days.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
8. Consider Items Removed from Consent
f. Fire Department & Northeast Metro Intermediate District 916 Medical
Training Program Agreement
At the request of Mayor Roe, City Manager Patrick Trudgeon briefly reviewed
this item being considered as detailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014, for
student ride-along opportunities with Roseville Fire EMT's.
At the request of Councilmember McGehee, Fire Chief Tim O'Neill confirmed
that this item had been brought forward for consideration by the City Council in
June of 2014. However, Mr. O'Neill advised that students were just starting
spring break, so the program had been delayed, and was just now being initiated.
Chief O'Neill further advised that two changes to the document had been incorpo-
rated at the previous request of City Council, and therefore was being submitted
to the City Council for their approval and authorization.
McGehee moved, Etten seconded, authorizing the Mayor and City Manager to en-
ter into an agreement (Attachment A) with Northeast Metro Intermediate District
916 for teaching assistance for their Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) Pro-
gram.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
g. Consider Approval and Support of Special Legislation Regarding the Com-
position of the Roseville Fire Relief Association Board of Trustees
At the request of Mayor Roe, City Manager Patrick Trudgeon briefly reviewed
this item being considered as detailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014; and
deferred to Relief Association President Breen for further detail.
Dave Breen, President of the Roseville Firefighter's Relief Association
Mr. Breen concurred with the summary by City Manager Trudgeon, and as de-
tailed in the RCA; advising that the legislation was intended to allow continued
local governance of the relief fund.. Mr. Breen advised that this also opened the
door for the Public Employees Retirement Association (PERA) to govern the
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fund, while funds would remain under the City's control via PERA's administra-
tion and segregated from other PERA funds.
At the request of Mayor Roe, City Manager Trudgeon advised that the general
concept had been approved by the City Council earlier in 2014, and legislative
staff was asking for formal City Council approval of the specific proposed legisla-
tion before moving forward.
Councilmember Etten, in his removal of this item from the Consent Agenda, not-
ed this opened up legislative options never talked about; and while he trusted
President Breen and the Relief Association Board, he asked that Mr. Breen ad-
dress the benefits of such legislation and the PERA option specific to the annuity
and how legislation may or may not affect the fund.
Annuity
Mr. Breen advised that there were fifty-two retired firefighters, in addition to ben-
eficiaries of other retirees, who remained in the Relief Association, in addition to
approximately forty active firefighters.
Councilmember Etten clarified that he fully supported that portion of the legisla-
tion and this request; however, he was seeking additional information on the PE-
RA portion.
Mr. Breen noted that, with the number of people still involved, it would be ex-
tremely expensive to set an annuity for that many, with the financial need exceed-
ing the value of the fund, and no longer an option in today's economy.
PERA
Mr. Breen advised that the PERA option provided a solution if and when the cur-
rent Relief Board could no longer be staffed; with the legislative commission in-
tending to set it up long-term, and not just for a ten-year stretch, but to assure the
viability of the fund's administration long-term. Mr. Breen noted that at some
point in the future, due to lack of interest, age of members, or other issues, the fi-
duciary responsibilities of the board will need to be addressed if that governance
was no longer available. Mr. Breen noted that the City Council could not serve in
that capacity, and therefore someone needed to be available to handle those ad-
ministrative duties, such as making monthly payments and taking care of the fund.
Mr. Breen noted that PERA could administratively handle lump fund payouts as
well as monthly benefits, and perhaps down the road may be able to manage the
fund at a reasonable cost, which was currently under discussion at the PERA lev-
el.
City Manager Trudgeon clarified that, for that action to happen, both the Relief
Board and City Council would need to jointly approve whether or not PERA was
brought in to govern the fund.
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Mayor Roe, with confirmation by Mr. Breen, noted that at any point active mem-
bers voted by majority to allow dissolution of the Relief Board at the prompting
of the Board, that issue would subsequently be brought to the City Council for ac-
tion. Mayor Roe noted that there were a number of choices as to how the Associ-
ation could dissolve in the future, but clarified that such dissolution would in-
volved decisions of the Association membership and City Council.
At the request of Councilmember Laliberte, Mr. Breen advised that he would need
to confirm which two legislative committees this was being addressed by for
drafting a proposed bill for special legislation, and would disseminate that infor-
mation to the City Council via City Manager Trudgeon. In referencing the outline
letter included in the agenda packet, Mr. Breen noted the detail required for the
process; and advised that the committees didn't see any issues with the legislation
proceeding with little delay. Mr. Breen noted that the Relief Association had at-
tempted this legislation last year, but had not realized the number of steps re-
quired and therefore didn't meet necessary legislative timelines.
Mayor Roe also requested information from Mr. Breen or Mr. Trudgeon on any
opportunities for Councilmembers to lobby in support of this bill.
Etten moved, Willmus seconded, approval and support by the City Council for the
Roseville Firefighters Relief Association to pursue special legislation regarding
Fire Relief Association Board membership as presented in Attachment A dated
October 2, 2014.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
j. Confirm Citizen Advisory Commission Reappointment/Appointment Sched-
ule
At the request of Mayor Roe, City Manager Patrick Trudgeon briefly reviewed
this item being considered as detailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014.
Councilmember McGehee noted that she had learned immediately prior to the
meeting that Public Works, Environment and Transportation Commissioner
Duane Seigler did wish to be considered for reappointment.
Councilmember McGehee also requested that, at the City Council's January 5,
2015 organizational meeting, the agenda include discussion of the City Council's
policy for determining who to interview. Councilmember McGehee stated that
she would prefer those interviews to not take time from the January 12, 2015 City
Council Worksession.
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McGehee moved, Laliberte seconded, confirmation of the citizen advisory com-
mission reappointment/appointment process as detailed in the RCA dated Decem-
ber 8, 2014.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
9. General Ordinances for Adoption
Recess
Mayor Roe recessed the meeting at approximately 6:40 p.m., and reconvened at approximately
6:41 p.m.
10. Presentations
a. Community Engagement Commission (CEG) Joint Meeting
Mayor Roe welcomed members of the CEG to this second joint meeting.
Chair Gary Grefenberg and Members Michelle Manke, Theresa Gardella; Scot
Becker; Jonathan Miller; Desiree Mueller were present and introduced them-
selves.
As detailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014, Chair Grefenberg noted 2015
priority Work Plan items as identified, seeking City Council feedback on those
recommended policies and strategies going forward. Chair Grefenberg advised
that all recommendations were approved by a consensus or majority vote of the
CEG.
Work Plan Priority Items for 2015
Assist and Encourage the Formation of Roseville Neighborhood Associations
Chair Grefenberg noted that this was a continuation of community discussions in
2007 and as part of the Imagine Roseville 2025 visioning process.
Host a Conference on Community Engagement in Roseville
Member Gardella noted that the priority items were developed through the CEG
dividing into 4-5 workgroups to develop them, and then presented to the full CEG
for discussion and approval. Ms. Gardella advised that the process took seven
months to accomplish,but served to make the process more manageable.
Form a Joint Task Force with the Planning Commission to Study Notification Is-
sues and Formats
Chair Grefenberg noted the ongoing interest in getting information out to the pub-
lic; and while he found those attempts better than they were eight years ago, there
was still room for improvement. Chair Grefenberg suggested that items coming
forward for land use or zoning consideration that were of a more significant envi-
ronmental nature (e.g. asphalt plant) should receive a wider notice distribution
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than typically used for zoning notices. Chair Grefenberg noted that this recom-
mendation had also been provided to the Council by the Community Engagement
Task Force. Mr. Grefenberg advised that he presented this idea to the Planning
Commission at their October 2014 meeting, and he was surprised and pleased to
receive positive feedback from all Planning Commissioners and their agreement
to work toward that goal. Chair Grefenberg referenced items found under zoning
notification in the RCA; and sought authorization to move forward with those
suggestions.
Recommend an Online Civic Engagement Module for New City Website
Member Becker noted the need to implement and dovetail broader themes into the
structure for projects that would reap long-term benefits and drive community en-
gagement. Mr. Becker advised that the CEG had been consulting with three ven-
dors and hoped to make a recommendation to the City Council on a chosen ven-
dor to proceed at the January 15, 2015 CEG meeting.
City Council Priorities and Emerging Opportunity
Chair Grefenberg used this opportunity to hear feedback from individual City
Councilmembers.
Councilmember Willmus thanked members for report and for serving the com-
munity; and expressed his excitement and encouraged the CEG to continue work-
ing on creating neighborhood associations. Councilmember Willmus opined that
the CEG was the perfect conduit to help facilitate that effort.
Councilmember Etten concurred with the comments of Councilmember Willmus,
and also thanked the CEG for their work to-date. Councilmember Etten opined
that neighborhood associations were great and helped bring people together to
work together and could use some of the expertise from their group to affect deci-
sions at the City Council level. Councilmember Etten referenced page 7 of the
CEG report related to engaging Roseville renters and non-single family home-
owners (e.g. condominiums and co-ops) and expressed his interest and the need to
engage that more. As a piece of that, Councilmember Etten noted the need to ex-
amine how those residents were approached and their specific situations where
electronic methods may not work and how to engage them otherwise. Coun-
cilmember Etten noted that each apartment building or complex and unit or renter
may approach this differently, and therefore a multi-modal approach was neces-
sary.
Chair Grefenberg noted the intent that a joint Planning Commission and CEG ef-
fort would work to get that information out for leased properties. As an example,
Chair Grefenberg noted that information on or notice about the pawn shop issue
currently before the City Council had not been received by residents of the adja-
cent apartment building. Chair Grefenberg expressed his interest in the Planning
Commission's willingness to work with the CEG on those communication efforts.
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Councilmember Laliberte also expressed her appreciation of the hard work by the
CEG in getting a new commission up and running and dealing with different per-
sonalities; and expressed her excitement about the great work yet to come for-
ward. Referencing the Task Force report, Councilmember Laliberte noted how
cumbersome it would have been for the entire CEG to address the many issues
brought forward; and expressed her support for the recommendations brought
forward to-date and as detailed in the RCA. Councilmember Laliberte advised
that she shared the logistical concerns raised by Councilmember Etten, and noted
the challenge in implementing the recommendations in getting information to
those renters and residents in condominiums or co-ops that may inadvertently be
excluded from current communication efforts. Councilmember Laliberte noted
her personal interest in this area, and advised that she would be following the ef-
forts of the CEG closely as they moved forward.
Chair Grefenberg suggested one way to accomplish that communication effort
could be through formation of a task force to advise the CEG on how best to im-
plement some of those items. Chair Grefenberg pointed out that some policies
and strategies as detailed in the RCA didn't require a lot of work, but simply City
Council approval and their subsequent direction to staff.
Regarding hosting a conference on community engagement in Roseville, Coun-
cilmember Laliberte asked for more information on proposed speakers and format
of such a conference; as well as seeking additional information on how and what
had been done to-date regarding the referenced request for proposals (RFP's).
Member Gardella advised that details were not in place yet, but the intent of the
working group was to map out a structure, then come back as a full CEG to make
the recommendations, targeting the fall of 2015 for holding a conference. Mem-
ber Gardella opined that the first conference probably wouldn't be too large; and
suggested some potential agenda items could include happenings in other com-
munities with similar commissions to the CEG to talk about their experiences,
successes, and lessons learned; inviting different cultural groups in Roseville to
talk about their personal experiences and areas needing attention; and those multi-
family rental building owners and/or managers who have successfully engaged
renters in the past; as well as hearing from the City Council on specific areas of
community engagement of interest to them.
Member Becker advised that regarding the CEG's RFP module and process to-
date had been creation of criteria by the committee, evaluation of vendors, and de-
livery of a Request for Information on those vendors to Communications Manager
Garry Bowman. Member Becker noted that one of three vendors was the current
vendor for the City's website update, and their work would come with the website
package. Member Becker noted that part of the criteria in selecting a vendor
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would be cost; but opined that it would prove a relatively low investment com-
pared to other city costs and investments.
Councilmember Laliberte sought information on her previous request for infor-
mation on where the former "Roseville University" was at; and expressed her in-
terest in continuing that process of engaging and education residents. Coun-
cilmember Laliberte expressed her disappointment that the course had not been
offered for over a year, since she considered it so effective.
Member Gardella advised that "Roseville U" came up in task force recommenda-
tions a lot and had been considered a successful structure for community engage-
ment. However, Member Gardella stated that she understood that the City was re-
thinking or tweaking it and therefore, the CEG didn't pursue it much at this time.
Chair Grefenberg noted that, in the CEG report, they recommended resumption of
"Roseville U."
Member Gardella further noted that the CEG had some specific recommendations
as part of reformatting"Roseville U."
Councilmember Laliberte opined that she would like to see it reinstated sooner ra-
ther than later.
Councilmember Willmus concurred that "Roseville U" was a great program and
offered his support in bringing it back. However, Councilmember Willmus ad-
vised that one critique he'd heard was the length of time or number of sessions
required to finish it; with many residents unable to make that long of a commit-
ment. Councilmember Willmus suggested tightening up that schedule to avoid
fallout from the current program.
Member Becker noted that a "Mini Roseville U" had been one consideration of
the CEG.
Regarding neighborhood associations, Councilmember McGehee suggested there
may be different views of them depending on the personalities involved or the
way they came to be. Councilmember McGehee questioned if the role of the
CEG was to assist the process other than in facilitating the neighborhoods self-
identifying themselves and coming forward to express their interest in forming.
Councilmember McGehee noted that, efforts from various neighborhood associa-
tions had been somewhat thwarted in the past when they came forward seeking
neighborhood signage to identify themselves, and previous City Councils had re-
jected those requests.
Chair Grefenberg noted that signage was included in the CEG report.
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Councilmember McGehee questioned how the CEG saw its role in assisting and
creating neighborhood associations versus those neighborhoods self-identifying
and coming to the City for assistance; with one of those efforts top down and the
other bottom up.
Chair Grefenberg stated that he supported the bottom up method; and if the City
Council approved the CEG moving forward, they had already held preliminary
discussions with three neighborhood associations who had experienced working
solo to-date. Chair Grefenberg suggested that a task force could bring back sug-
gestions to the full commission; and offered his interest in coming back to the
City Council with those recommendations for how the City Council could support
neighborhood associations. Chair Grefenberg noted the excellent track record of
the Cities of Edina and St. Louis Park in encouraging the formation of neighbor-
hood associations.
While neighborhood associations served as an excellent resource in communica-
tion between the City and those neighborhoods, Mayor Roe noted other aspects
that had nothing to do with the City. Mayor Roe advised that his number one rea-
son for supporting the neighborhood association concept was to connect residents
with each other in a smaller geographic area, and secondary to that first priority in
their creation was to foster communication and receive their feedback from a city
perspective. Mayor Roe opined that it made sense that the associations develop
bottom up and self-identify; but noted the challenges and past experiences in at-
tempting to get them going. Mayor Roe suggested that the role of the CEG may
be to develop a list of best practices or to draft up options available as organiza-
tional documents that interested residents could tap into to create a neighborhood
association. Mayor Roe stated that such a role was what he was interested in see-
ing; as well as ways to connect rental communities while recognizing some of the
challenges with a more transient resident versus long-term residents. However,
Mayor Roe suggested those long-term residents could serve as the core group for
such an association.
Mayor Roe stated that he wholeheartedly endorsed "Roseville U" and had heard
nothing but positive things in the past; and suggested that it remain an option
available to residents. Mayor Roe stated that he was fine with keeping the course
as delivered in the past, or tweaking it,but either way to move forward with it.
In conclusion, Mayor Roe noted that he heard no objections from individual City
Councilmembers in the CEG moving forward with their identified priorities; and
highlighted the City Council's expressed feedback and interest in pursuing and
engaging renter residents and reinstating"Roseville U."
Chair Grefenberg thanked the City Council for their feedback.
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Chair Grefenberg noted the recommendations provided by the CEG regarding fill-
ing commission vacancies, and encouraged the City Council to review them be-
fore they got further into the mechanics.
Mayor Roe thanked the CEG for their work to-date; opining that they were pro-
gressing nicely.
Recess
Mayor Roe recessed the meeting at approximately 7:09 p.m., and reconvened at approximately
7:10 p.m.
11. Public Hearings
a. Public Hearing to Consider Amending City Code, Chapter 302,to Allow for
Expanded Hours of Operation for On-Sale Brewer Taproom Establishments
Finance Director Chris Miller summarized the request as detailed in the RCA,
with this entity serving as the sole on- and off-sale brewer taproom establishment
in the City under these restrictions of City Code, Chapter 302. Mr. Miller noted
the two requests: one for expanded hours of operation for any on-sale brewer tap-
room establishment; and waiving the hours of operation limitation for the upcom-
ing New Year's Eve date.
Discussion ensued regarding this specific taproom; revisions to the city-wide or-
dinance for hours of operation; and requirements under Minnesota State Statute as
well as under City Code.
Councilmember Willmus offered his support of amending current City Code to al-
low such an establishment, including this applicant, to remain open until 1:00 a.m.
Applicant Bartley Blume, Bent Brewstillery
At the request of Councilmember McGehee, the Mr. Blume advised that ideally
he would like the flexibility of remaining open until 1:00 a.m. to accommodate
any special events or applicable holidays, and without coming before the City
Council for each of those opportunities. Mr. Blume advised that, in the future,
they may choose to be open another day during the week based on the interest of
their patrons, and/or as demand indicates, and would like that flexibility built in
the ordinance as well. Mr. Blume noted the growing interest in taprooms, with
many open six days/week.
Mr. Blume reviewed the changes in the operation since the original license to this
establishment, formerly issued to Pour Decisions Brewery before the merger, with
that owner bound by family commitments and restrictions. However, the Mr.
Blume noted that this was his employment commitment, and that he worked with
his wife in the establishment, and didn't have similar family restrictions. Mr.
Blume noted the large number of taprooms opening over the last 2.5 years in Ro-
seville, as well as approximately 10-15 more opening in the metropolitan areas.
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Mr. Blume noted that the business's track record should speak for itself, with no
issues during their 2.5 years of operation; with well-behaved patrons.
From a legal or law enforcement perspective for consideration by the City, Coun-
cilmember Etten asked Mr. Blume how he would differentiate his operation from
other liquor licenses in the City who paid a much higher license fee and were able
to operate for longer hours (e.g. bars). Councilmember Etten expressed concern
with the City setting a precedent, even though the establishment made its own
product, and questioned if that would provide enough distinction.
Mr. Blume responded that their establishment was not a bar that would be much
more established, with bars serving less expensive beverages in higher volume, in
addition to the luxury of extra revenue they received from the restaurant side. Mr.
Blume noted the difference in their establishment, serving a minimum number of
beers, no more than ten, and making its own high quality and more expensive
product with care and passion, such as a bakery establishment would do for their
particular product, and serving a much different clientele. Mr. Blume opined that
the distinction was already clearly stated in the limitations placed on such opera-
tions by the State of Minnesota.
Mayor Roe opened the public hearing at approximately 7:23 p.m.
Public Comment
Joey White,430 Glenwood Avenue
Mr. White lent his voice of support for extended hours'of operation for this type
of establishment.
John Heier, 1435 Albany, Richfield, MN (?)
As a partner in another taproom in Minneapolis, just across Hennepin Avenue,
Mr. Heier advised that they could be open until 1:00 a.m. By not extending the
hours in Roseville for this type of operation, Mr. Heier opined that a patron could
stay at the Roseville taproom until they closed, and then move their business out
of Roseville to another suburb. Mr. Heier opined that it would be a good thing for
Roseville to extend hours of operation for this type of establishment.
With no one else appearing to speak for or against, Mayor Roe closed the public
hearing at approximately 7:25 p.m.
13. Business/Action Items
a. Approve/Deny Amending City Code, Chapter 302 to Allow for Expanded
Hours of Operation for On-Sale Brewer Taproom Establishments
Laliberte moved, Willmus seconded, enactment of Ordinance No. 1475 (Attach-
ment A) entitled, "An Ordinance Amending Title 3, Section 302, Liquor Control;"
to allow for expanded hours of operations for on-sale brewer taproom establish-
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ments as presented with hours of operation from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. Sunday
through Saturday.
Individual Councilmembers expressed their support for the motion; and Mayor
Roe wished the applicant the best of luck in his future business endeavors.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
12. Budget Items
Finance Director Miller and City Manager Trudgeon both briefly provided their final
comments and recommendations, as detailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014, lines
45 —63, noting some savings from the last presentation and revised projections.
a. Approve 2015 Levy& Budget
Councilmember Willmus noted the additional $2,000 request of the Human
Rights Commission (HRC), noted on lines 57 — 59 of the RCA; and questioned if
the Commission had any other options to free up those funds.
City Manager Trudgeon advised that the HRC currently had $2,000 in their budg-
et, which included outsourcing their meeting minutes and for funding a variety of
events they hosted. If their request for funding civility training was included in
that budget, Mr. Trudgeon advised that they would have to reduce that spending
in some other way.
Mayor Roe noted that this money would come from the General Fund, with only
two commissions having a specific budget.
At the request of Councilmember Laliberte, City Manager Trudgeon advised that,
if the City Council chose to fund that civility training request, he would recom-
mend the funds be taken from the Communications Fund, which would affect the
budget but not the levy. Mr. Trudgeon clarified that the HRC was still pursuing
grant funding for the $3,000 program, and had received a $1,000 commitment and
location by the Ramsey County Library—Roseville Branch. Mr. Trudgeon noted
that, if the HRC did not realize any other funding or grant opportunities, it would
need to be funded by the City Council if they approved the expense.
Councilmember McGehee stated that she considered that civility training feel un-
der the purview of communications; and would not be opposed to having the
training become part of the City's periodic ethics training. Councilmember
McGehee noted that, whether additional funds or grants became available, the
HRC was facing a deadline to confirm the library location for the training.
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At the request of Mayor Roe, Finance Director Miller clarified that the projected
$10,000 budget reduction for fuel was on the tax-supported side, with the vast
majority of fuel usage for the Police and Fire Departments, and street vehicles.
Mr. Miller advised that there may be some savings on the non-tax-supported side,
but it would be minimal.
Mayor Roe made a proposal, displayed for his colleagues and the public, and at-
tached hereto and made a part hereof, as his recommendation to deal with the
proposed levy by using some reserves to provide additional funding for the tax
levy. Mayor Roe reviewed his proposal for use of unrestricted reserves, as well
as reserves target range from the License Center Fund, and addressed policies in
place that related to target fund balancesfor each. Mayor Roe opined that his
proposal provided a conservative approach to retain a midpoint level for those re-
serves by splitting the reserve in half, to be considered as a revenue source to re-
duce the 2015 levy increase.
By proportionally using $355,000 from the License Center Fund and $155,000
from General Fund unrestricted reserves, along with approximately half of the
$200,000 projected by staff for 2014 operational savings, or $110,000, Mayor
Roe noted that this would reduce the tax levy increase from 2014 to 2015 at
$280,000.
Councilmember McGehee noted that this did not pay back the full amount taken
from reserves in the past that the City Council had agreed to pay back. Based on
her calculations and these recommendations, Councilmember McGehee opined
that only $175,000 would be paid back when it was already short. To clarify the
reserves in the License Center Fund that some may choose to characterize as
"hoarding," Councilmember McGehee noted that those funds were intended to be
used to construct a building for the License Center versus continuing to lease
space at$60,000 annually.
While agreeing in principle with mayor Roe's proposal for the General Operating
Fund, Councilmember McGehee opined that the City should be looking during
the year for operational savings that could be found citywide, such as through out-
sourcing or contracting out some services, providing savings and not requiring
these drastic measures. As an example, Councilmember McGehee questioned if
the City of Roseville needed its own SWAT team; or if it could raise fees going
forward to achieve major savings rather than continuing to use reserves that were
intended to other purposes.
Excluding the License Center reserves, Councilmember Willmus noted, in large
part, the reserves represented taxes paid in advance by Roseville taxpayers.
Based on his review of Finance Commission recommendations, Councilmember
Willmus noted that reserves remained $1 million to $1.5 million above the target
goal; therefore making it very much within the City Council's purview to use
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those monies to offset the levy, in particular given the restructuring by Ramsey
County of residential and commercial property values for 2015. If the City Coun-
cil used the numbers proposed by Mayor Roe, Councilmember Willmus noted
that this would get the levy increase for 2015 to be consistent with the rate of in-
flation over the past year. Councilmember Willmus opined that this would not
limit the City moving forward and would be a prudent step that he could support.
Councilmember Etten stated that he was not a big supporter of using one-time
money to patch together a budget. However, Councilmember Etten stated that he
was somewhat amenable to the proposal by Mayor Roe this year given the severe
shift of property values from commercial businesses to residential family homes,
which was hitting homeowners significantly hard for 2015. Councilmember Etten
noted that the use of those reserves as proposed was significant and put the City at
a $540,000 hole before talking about anything for 2016. While comfortable using
some reserves, Councilmember Etten opined that that number was a large hole to
dig out of, and at some point would hit the City hard and limit future decision-
making. Speaking specifically to the comments about meeting Consumer Price
Index (CPI) percentages as part of the additional $220,000 for capital needs out-
side operating increases, Councilmember Etten stated that he was more comforta-
ble with the$280,000 as part of that, but adding in the remainder to bring the total
2015 levy increase to just over 2% in an effort to acknowledge the City Council's
attempt to keep things down for residents while not limiting the City's future.
Mayor Roe clarified the intent of Councilmember Etten to reduce the increase
suggested by staff from $655,329 to $400,000; with Councilmember Etten agree-
ing by using $220,000 to the CIP, bringing the levy increase to a little over 2%.
Mayor Roe clarified that he did not subtract the CIP.
Councilmember McGehee concurred with the comments of Councilmember Et-
ten, stating that she had the same reservations stated by him. Councilmember
McGehee expressed her dislike to continuing to do this at year-end without ad-
dressing some of the fundamental issues and making recommendations to reduce
spending. Councilmember McGehee opined that $540,000 was a huge amount,
and she supported retaining the CIP amount.
Councilmember Laliberte noted that she had long advocated for reduced spend-
ing, and after another year's budget process, that had yet to be achieved. While
respecting the recommendation of the Finance Commission for options available
where reserves are over reserve targets, and those two funds specifically proposed
to be used by Mayor Roe, Councilmember Laliberte expressed her opposition to
using reserves to fund recurring expenses. While not having a problem using
them or an investment for 2015, and recognizing that it was taxpayer money that
should be used for refunded and not stockpiled, Councilmember Laliberte ex-
pressed concern is borrowing from reserves and then needing to repay them. De-
pending on how it was considered, Councilmember Laliberte questioned if it
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needed to be repaid if it represented excess money sitting in reserves if the Coun-
cil chose to utilize it for funding operations of capital expenditures.
Councilmember Etten stated that he believed that the City was not actually paying
back reserves, but filling in with levy dollars paid with one-time dollars. By fill-
ing in that budget amount previously agreed to versus one-time money, Coun-
cilmember Etten opined that there were no additional monies going into the re-
serves.
Councilmember McGehee concurred with Councilmember Etten's comments.
However, when thinking of a way to pay reserves back, Councilmember McGe-
hee noted the amount of time to build up some of those reserves; and if the City
considered building a License Center at some point, it would need the money, ei-
ther from reserves or by bonding. Councilmember McGehee stated that she
strongly supported a "rainy day" fund; and opined that the City wasn't paying the
funds back, but they needed to be available to avoid terrible fluctuations, such as
being experienced in 2015. While the City was lucky those reserves were availa-
ble, Councilmember McGehee opined that if they continued to be used as a gen-
eral policy, the City Council would not have them available in the future to help
taxpayers, and suggested caution. Councilmember McGehee stated that she was
less hesitant to use the reserves this year due to increased property valuations; and
expressed her hope that there were programs that could be cut, some significantly,
in the future, including utility rates with increases laid entirely on residents, and
requiring further review in the future compared to commercial utility rates.
Mayor Roe clarified that the utility rate increase was to the base fees and applied
to all utility customers, whether commercial or residential, with commercial prop-
erties affected according to their meter size.
In response to the preference to not use reserves for ongoing expenses, Mayor
Roe suggested one way to look at it as proposed for 2015 (referencing page 3 in
the RCA), under budget additions, such as additional CIP replacements, if it cre-
ated more comfort, the reserves could be used to pay $500,000 of those proposed
$723,570 additional 2015 capital replacements, and not considered to be used for
ongoing expenses. While not being able to remember the proposed 2016 capital
needs and whether or not it was sustainable, Mayor Roe noted that it fluctuated
annually, as evidenced with this 2015 CIP including a$700,000 increase.
Specific to saving for a new License Center, Mayor Roe noted that the discussion
had been held earlier in 2014, and it was not actually a City Council policy per se,
it was certainly worth having a conversation about. However, Mayor Roe further
noted that his proposal did not completely eliminate those reserves, but it would
set them back, but still allowed that conversation to move forward while still us-
ing funds to provide relief for Roseville taxpayers at this time.
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Original Motion
Etten moved,McGehee seconded, a 2% levy increase at $373,181 through the
use of General Fund reserves, covering the remaining $100,000 needed
through using from expected 2014 carryover monies, with the remaining
$182,000 through use of License Center Fund reserves.
At the request of Councilmember Laliberte as to why he was opposed to using all
of the reserves as proposed by Mayor Roe, Councilmember Etten noted that his
motion used a chunk of reserves, but preferred not to use all of it until further dis-
cussions could take place, and more information available over the next six
months.
Councilmember Laliberte noted that the City didn't start out at a zero budget each
year, but built on the previous year's base, with padding and carryover included
each year. With staff stating that $200,000 was easily available now, Coun-
cilmember Laliberte opined that, based on previous years' carryover, there should
be no concern in applying the full $200,000 now.
Laliberte Amendment
Laliberte moved, Roe seconded, using the full 2014 carryover amount of
$200,000; and $282,000 in License Center Fund reserves.
Mayor Roe estimated that this would reduce the 2015 levy increase to approxi-
mately 1.46%.
Councilmember Willmus spoke in support of the amendment, opining that the
original motion and the amendment represented responsible steps in the current
environment and were consistent with inflation rates over the last year.
Councilmember Etten spoke in opposition to the amendment for the same reasons,
opining that it dumped more and more onto future Councils and did not represent
a great way to budget monies.
Councilmember McGehee concurred, speaking in opposition to the amendment,
opining that it was a guess and not prudent.
Councilmember Laliberte spoke in support of the amendment, and while respect-
ing and understanding that this may place a burden on future City Council's, she
noted that it would be the individuals currently at the table for the next few years,
and she was willing to take on that burden, while at the same time looking at cut-
ting spending wherever and however possible while continuing to replace capital
needs and infrastructure. Councilmember Laliberte noted that this would be an
ongoing debate.
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Councilmember Etten noted that the City Council had an opportunity to do so ear-
lier in 2014 and didn't take action, but now seemed willing to pass the dollar on,
which he found troubling. Councilmember Etten stated that he was okay in con-
sidering a partial use of reserves, but opined that this got the City in too deep of a
hole.
Roe Amendment to Laliberte Amendment to the Original Motion
Mayor Roe suggested a slight modification to Councilmember Laliberte's
amendment, that if the 2014 savings proved less than $200,000, that the re-
mainder come from General Fund reserves, which would fall under the in-
tent expressed in Councilmember Etten's original motion.
Councilmember Laliberte accepted Mayor Roe's amendment to her motion.
Mayor Roe noted that he was fully aware that the 2015 budget was not ap-
proached through spending cuts,but opined that there were a number of things the
City Council obviously found important to continue or needed to enhance or im-
prove the City as discovered during previous discussions. Mayor Roe opined that
it was not the City Council's role to continually cut spending, but to be good
stewards of taxpayer monies and continue to strive to do a better job from year to
year or become more efficient in delivery of services and programs. Mayor Roe
stated that he was also very aware of the impact on taxpayers, and expressed his
confidence that the economy would continue to recover, and that development
would continue in Roseville, so that the Cit y wouldn't be facing the same issues
in the near future. Mayor Roe suggested that, in order to use the levy in the future
to recover reserves, and having it available for tax relief as needed, the City
Council needed to seriously look at those reserve funds on a continuing basis.
Councilmember McGehee stated that she hoped, over the course of the year in
2015, that the City didn't attempt to cut existing programs, opining that there
were changes that could be made to the City's tax base or steps to facilitate devel-
opment that could enhance the tax base and improve the community in that way.
However, Councilmember McGehee stated the need to make sure those steps
were fair and the things supported by the City Council were what the residents
wanted and supported, by giving the residents options and having open discus-
sions with the public by providing full and transparent information to residents
and letting them make the decisions. Councilmember McGehee stated that she
was not in favor of making cuts in line items as done in the past.
Laliberte/Roe Amendment Restated
Laliberte moved, Roe seconded, using the full 2014 carryover amount of
$200,000; $282,000 in License Center Fund reserves; and if 2014 savings
prove less than $200,000, the remainder come from General Fund reserves.
Roll Call
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Ayes: Laliberte, Willmus, and Roe.
Nays: Etten and McGehee.
Motion carried.
Original Motion Restated as Amended
Etten moved, McGehee seconded, a 1.5% levy increase at $273,181 through
the use of General Fund reserves; use of$282,000 from License Center Fund
reserves; and using the full 2014 carryover amount of$200,000, and if 2014
savings prove less than $200,000, the remainder come from General Fund re-
serves.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, Willmus,and Roe.
Nays: Etten and McGehee.
Motion carried.
At the request of Mayor Roe, Finance Director Miller provided updated numbers
for the draft resolution(Attachment A—page 5 of the RCA) as shown below.
Willmus moved, Laliberte seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11193 entitled,
"Resolution Submitting the Final Property Tax Levy on Real Estate to the Ram-
sey County Auditor for the Fiscal Year of 2015;" as amended with $14,796,902
for programs and services; debt service remaining at$3,480,000; and total 2015
tax levy at$18,276,902.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, Willmus, and Roe.
Nays: Etten and McGehee.
Motion carried.
McGehee moved, Etten seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11194 (Attachment
B) entitled, "Resolution Directing the County Auditor to Adjust the Approved
Tax Levy for 2015 Bonded Debt;" as presented, and increasing the amount from
2014 by the amount of$139,900.95.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
Etten moved, McGehee seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11195 (Attachment
C) entitled, "Resolution Adopting the Final 2015 Annual Budget for the City of
Roseville;" in the amount of$52,045,290, of which $26,055,340 is designated for
the property-tax-supported programs.
Councilmember Laliberte noted that an upcoming agenda item tonight would in-
clude discussion on new positions, but asked for a better understanding and dis-
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cussion on the proposed full-time forestry position now before voting on the 2015
budget. Councilmember Laliberte sought clarification on how the position would
be used, under which department would it be located, whether hiring would be at
the beginning of 2015 or mid-year, and whether or not the budget could be adjust-
ed accordingly, similar to the Volunteer Coordinator hiring mid-year.
City Manager Trudgeon advised that staffs preference would be to get the posi-
tion up and running as soon as possible if funded in the 2015 budget, especially
with emphasis on development projects already underway and those anticipated in
the spring of 2015. While still under his review, Mr. Trudgeon advised that he
anticipated the full-time forestry position as a shared position with the initial
thought to have it housed in the Parks and Recreation Department as is the current
part-time position and based on their institutional knowledge. Mr. Trudgeon ad-
vised that the current position helped with the park system and street trees as well;
and he saw that role expanded to work on development projects. Mr. Trudgeon
clarified that there would be a lot of coordinated needed between the Parks &
Recreation, Community Development, and Public Works/Engineering Depart-
ments as well as with new landscaping projects. Mr. Trudgeon expressed his and
staff's disappointment, along with that of the public and City Council, with past
projects; and opined that a full-time position would help address those issues.
At this point, Councilmember McGehee questioned whether she would support
the full-time forestry position at all, unless it was properly managed. Coun-
cilmember McGehee stated that she had not been happy with the past program,
not because it was only a part-time position, but based on her interpretation of
what was needed for a forester to address, such as natural areas in the community
rather than exclusive use for park renewal program-related issues. Councilmem-
ber McGehee further opined that the City's Public Works Department could not
and should not be asked to maintain street trees when not properly planted or
maintained; however, she did think the forester position should be available to as-
sist the Public Works Department in storm water ponds and drainage issues as re-
lated to trees, since trees were a big part of that as well as the development piece.
As part of the consideration, Councilmember McGehee noted that portions of the
position could be charged to developers, but consideration also was needed to
make sure storm water was kept on properties versus roads. Councilmember
McGehee noted that this would require uniform management among three differ-
ent groups from three different directions; and stated that she would reserve
judgment on whether or not to support a full-time forester position or use of a
contract service as needed.
City Manager Trudgeon reminded the City Council that the full-time forester po-
sition is proposed for funding from the Parks & Recreation Depai[went and 50%
from the Community Development Department; but would be subject to change if
found different during practical use. Mr. Trudgeon further noted that the position
may need adjusting further to make sure the position and funds realized as part of
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development or redevelopment funds were in accordance with state law for the
Community Development Department's use. Mr. Trudgeon advised that these ad-
justments would come forward in future budget cycles.
Councilmember McGehee opined that, while the Community Development De-
partment could capture the cost of the position from developer fees, the Public
Works Department, where she thought the strongest need was, didn't have much
voice in the matter.
Mayor Roe noted that, with the exception of the CIP, most expenses remained
fairly flat from 2014 to 2015, with the budget for water operations actually going
down, and sanitary sewer and storm drainage going up.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
b. Adopt the 2015 Final HRA Tax Levy
Finance Director Miller noted that the HRA had revised their 2015 levy request to
the same as 2014, for a zero levy increase for 2015, as detailed in the RCA dated
December 8, 2014.
Willmus moved, Etten seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11196 (Attachment
A) entitled, "A Resolution Submitting the Housing and Redevelopment Authority,
in and for the City of Roseville, Special Property Tax Levy on Real Estate to the
Ramsey County Auditor for the Fiscal Year of 2015, in the amount of$703,579, a
zero percent increase from 2014.
Councilmember Laliberte thanked the HRA members and staff and Council Rep-
resentative Etten for their work in revising their levy request for a flat levy.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
c. Consider the 2015 Utility Rate Adjustments
Finance Director Miller, in referencing the RCA dated December 8, 2014, advised
that there were no updates since the public hearing information presented at last
week's meeting, and previous discussions held in November with the City Coun-
cil.
Etten moved, Laliberte seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11197 (Attachment
A) entitled, "Resolution Establishing the 2015 Utility Rates;"as presented and de-
tailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014.
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Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
Recess
Mayor Roe recessed the meeting at approximately 8:20 p.m., and reconvened at approximately
8:28 p.m.
At the request of Mayor Roe, Finance Director.Miller provided updated impacts
for Roseville residents, based on the flat levy request by the HRA, and tax levy
reductions made tonight for the average taxpayer. Mr. Miller reported that the
average increase to a typical, median-valued home in Roseville had been project-
ed for 2015 at $6.54, and with tonight's actions had been reduced to$4.98, or a
savings of$1.69 per month.
Mayor Roe noted that the average single-family home in Roseville was looking at
an 11% increase in its market value, and with tonight's actions, residents could
assume an approximate $7.5% increase from 2014 property taxes.
Mayor Roe noted his previous request that late in the year, the Finance Depart-
ment publish an official budget document providing results of tonight's actions
and present that budget document to the council in early 2015; duly noted by City
Manager Trudgeon.
13. Business Items (Action Items)
b. Consider Approval of Pawn America Minnesota, LLC's 2015 Pawn Shop
and Precious Metals Dealer License Renewal
Finance Director Miller referenced the RCA dated December 8, 2014, noting that
there were no changes since the presentation at the previous meeting, with the ex-
ception of the requested additional land use information provided by the Commu-
nity Development Department staff in the RCA, lines 11 through 55. Regarding
City requirements, Mr. Miller advised the City Council that Pawn America had
met all requirements, and therefore, from staff's perspective, they saw no reason
to deny the requested license renewal.
At the request of Mayor Roe, City Attorney Gaughan pointed out that, under City
Code, licenses were subject to renewal unless there was a violation of licensing
provisions of relevant state or local laws; and unless one or more of those condi-
tions exist,renewal would be appropriate per City Code.
Based on the submitted pictures provided by residents at last week's meeting,
Councilmember McGehee advised that she drove the area today, and the refuse
and condition of the easement area immediately adjacent to people's back yards
was terrible, with the hill and area full of tires, bed frames, trash and other junk.
Councilmember McGehee stated that it was her understanding that the property
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actually belonged to the apartment building, and in her opinion, certainly repre-
sented a code violation. Councilmember McGehee expressed her confidence that
Community Development Director Bilotta would alert the City's code enforce-
ment team to remedy the situation; and also suggested a review by the City's Po-
lice Department and other Community Development staff. Councilmember
McGehee opined that it seemed to be a very unfortunate situation back there, and
looked ramshackle, and unsafe. Councilmember McGehee opined that the area
looked like a frequently used pathway to area businesses, and suggested that the
City encourage beautification of the area, or even suggested that the City beautify
the area itself if it was easement property. Since the area was side enough to
drive a car through, Councilmember McGehee noted that obviously provided
clear access with kids using the hill for sledding. Councilmember McGehee fur-
ther opined that there were some real opportunities for the City to get together
with constituents to put something nice together back there and make it safer than
it appeared today. Councilmember McGehee expressed her appreciation of pre-
vious public comments; and opined that a lot of the responsibility belonged to the
City of Roseville since the easement area belonged to the City; and obviously the
Pawn Shop was not the biggest contributor to the mess.
Mayor Roe asked for an update from neighbors on the progress between them and
Pawn America representatives since the last meeting.
Councilmember Etten concurred, asking neighbors to speak about where they
were at with those discussions.
Public Comment
Sherry Sanders—363 S McCarrons Blvd.
As Chair of the McCarron's Neighborhood Association, Ms. Sanders displayed a
map of property owners in the immediate area.
Other Board Members from the Neighborhood Association appearing included
Jim Moncour, 294 N McCarron's Blvd.; Diane Hilden, 466 Bayview, and Ricky
Sanders, 166 S. McCarron's Blvd., owner of the property directly affected by the
Pawn America remodel.
Ms. Sanders thanked the City Council for the ability to speak to this issue. Ms.
Sanders reported on the Board meeting with Pawn America representative, Chuck
Armstrong, noting his sincere desire to assist the neighborhood with the noise,
trash and light issues, and offered to make an appeal to the McCarron's Hill
Shopping Center for installation of a fence.
However, during the meeting with Mr. Armstrong, Ms. Sanders advised that a
problem beyond that of concerns with Pawn America was discovered, on the
whole easement used by foot traffic separating homes from the shopping center
and from the apartments located behind Larpenteur, Woodbridge and Marion.
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Ms. Sanders noted that the chain link fence had apparently been "altered" to cre-
ate shortcuts to businesses across Rice Street.
With that new issue brought to light, Ms. Sanders advised that the Association
wanted to continue discussions, seeking resolution and cooperation by the owners
of the shopping center, G & G Management LLC, owners of fourteen buildings in
this area running along that easement. As part of that ongoing discussion, Ms.
Sanders advised that the Association was requesting a site plan review and for
staff to enforce City Code, but not limited to building regulations, but also code,
sanitation and zoning to address this matter.
Due to Pawn America's willingness to assist the Association and address prob-
lems specific to their operation and relocation of their door, Ms. Sanders stated
that they saw no reason to delay the renewal of their license.
Jim Moncour,294 N McCarron's Blvd.
Mr. Moncour clarified that the Association had no intent to create a problem, and
they had actually approached, with Community Development Director Bilotta, en-
tities responsible for the apartment building and had so far met with favorable
support. Mr. Moncour further clarified that Mr. Armstrong with Pawn America
had been nothing but positive; and were proving very cooperative.
Even though the extent of the problem had yet to be identified and who the re-
sponsible parties are for the area in general, Mr. Moncour sought and welcomed
any help available from the City in coordinating this function and dealing with
this geographical area and these entities. Mr. Moncour opined that it was the con-
sensus of the Association that the fence required by Pawn America from their lo-
cation at the top of the hill to block headlights and other distractions from adja-
cent residential properties 50' lower would be a great step in the right direction.
Mr. Moncour advised that the Association did not wish to put any condition on
the Pawn America license renewal approval, opining that it would only serve to
taint discussions and the process already happening, even though they were not
ready to make an articulated statement on what resolution or legal resolution may
be needed. However, Mr. Moncour agreed that the Association found no problem
in the City Council renewing this license now that their concerns are part of the
record with Pawn America and its location in relation to this and the property.
Mr. Moncour expressed the Association's hopes that the gun shots and armed
hold up were an isolated incident at Pawn America, and in summation, expressed
their support of renewal of the Pawn America license at this point, and looked
forward to the continued cooperation of this business in resolving some of the
workable problems.
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Mayor Roe expressed the City Council's appreciation for the Associations com-
ments and update; and especially their contact with the apartment building owner.
Councilmember Willmus thanked both parties for getting together to talk things
through; and while understanding that this is just as start, he asked that they keep
individual Councilmembers updated as things move forward.
Mayor Roe concurred, asking for a progress report, whether positive or negative.
Diane Hilden,466 Bayview
Ms. Hilden opined that this was a great example of an association getting togeth-
er; and noted the many different facets of this problem requiring a many-pronged
approach. Ms. Hilden stated that the resolution would not happen overnight, but
expressed appreciation to the City Council providing a spotlight on that corner
and opening up the door to increasing and improving amenities in that area. Ms.
Hilden stated that the Association was seeking a long-term resolution with G & G
Management.
Mayor Roe expressed hope that solutions could also be found with tenants in the
individual buildings as well through these efforts.
Councilmember McGehee opined that she would like to see pathways for foot
traffic in that area, further opining that it would be a shame to block that entire ar-
ea off, and would like to see it cleaned up for a nice pathway to enhance the
community, as long as the Public Works Department could still access their sewer
lines.
Ms. Hilden concurred, opining that the Association continued to seek elimination
of the "ICO" station; and their slogan had become "ICOhas got to go." Ms. Hil-
den offered that the Association would do their part if the City of Maplewood
would do theirs.
Ricky Sanders, 166 S. McCarron's Blvd., owner of the property directly af-
fected by the Pawn America remodel.
Mr. Sanders noted that the meeting had been held at his home, and thanked Coun-
cilmember Etten and Mr. Armstrong for attending and observing the problem
from their point of view. Mr. Sanders expressed hope that the apartment building
owners and G& G Management's zoning could be reviewed.
However, Mr. Sanders opined that the Pawn America license renewal should not
be delayed.
Laliberte moved, McGehee seconded, approval of the 2015 Pawn Shop and Pre-
cious Metals Dealer License renewal for Pawn America Minnesota, LLC, d/b/a
Pawn America, located at 1715 N Rice Street; pending completion of successful
background checks.
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Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
c. Consider Approval of Newly Created Positions in the 2015 City Budget
At the request of Mayor Roe, City Manager Trudgeon briefly reviewed the new
positions, as approved in the 2015 City Budget just adopted, as detailed in the
RCA dated December 8, 2014, and sought official City Council approval of those
new positions. Mr. Trudgeon advised that the positions would be funded through
existing non-tax levy revenue sources with the exception of the Firefighters, with
that net cost estimated at $68,000 to be funded from levy funds.
Councilmember McGehee noted that, according to previous presentation by Fire
Chief O'Neill, this left forty firefighters still covered in the Relief Association
pension fund. Councilmember McGehee reiterated her ongoing support to fast
track this additional liability and implement the restructuring plan sooner.
Councilmember McGehee requested additional information on the Right-of-Way
Coordinator position.
At the request of Mayor Roe, Public Works Director Duane Schwartz provided an
overview of duties intended to be performed more efficiently by one position ver-
sus those same duties being performed by a number of current staff members in
the Public Works and Engineering Departments. Mr. Schwartz noted that those
duties included numerous permit approvals, monitoring and inspections, Gopher
State one-call locates, review and coordination of private utility problems when
new fiber installations occur, and whether or not City, Ramsey County, or State of
Minnesota rights-of-way may be in conflict with existing City utilities. Mr.
Schwartz noted that often there may be multiple staff members currently visiting
the same sites, and this new position was intended to streamline management of
those efforts. Mr. Schwartz noted that other details of the position were summa-
rized in the RCA, pending completion of a job description.
Councilmember McGehee stated that she was not happy with the proposed For-
ester position, at least as the current part-time position exists, opining that the City
didn't do a very good job of keeping trees alive in streetscapes. Councilmember
McGehee noted that the Public Works Department performed maintenance along
the streets, but she had observed an amazing amount of maintenance of those
streetscapes that she deemed unnecessary, a lot of which was related to trees.
Councilmember McGehee noted that the Department was also responsible for
trees around wetlands and lift stations.
Mr. Schwartz clarified that all departments had a role in tree maintenance, and
admitted that streetscape trees and vegetation were challenging due to the tough
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environments for those trees. However, Mr. Schwartz noted that staff continued
to learn over the years through research and recommendations for stormwater
management how to do a better job in planting and maintaining those trees in
parking lots and along streets. Going forward, Mr. Schwartz noted that staff
would be looking at different species and management techniques for them to be-
come even more successful, much related to stormwater management and getting
appropriate planting materials. Mr. Schwartz further clarified that this didn't limit
those same best practices for other development and park concerns.
Councilmember McGehee questioned how Mr. Schwartz would see contract ser-
vices serving in this role.
Mr. Schwartz responded that there may still be more expertise needed from out-
side sources for design services, tree boxes or stormwater design. However, Mr.
Schwartz noted that those services were different than typical maintenance, trim-
ming and disease monitoring, and could be different people used for different
functions.
Specific to the six new Firefighter positions as they proceeded with implementa-
tion, Councilmember Willmus stated that he would be seeking additional discus-
sion and information from Fire Chief O'Neill of how callback rates and auto aid
agreements would work.
From her perspective and from information provided to-date, Councilmember
McGehee reiterated that she would prefer departments to use contract services for
a Forester position and as needed.
Councilmember Etten opined that the very reasons Councilmember McGehee
brought up provided sufficient reasoning relevant to why the City needed a full-
time forester for planning and coordination purposes to better streamline and
manage that citywide.
Etten moved, Willmus seconded, approval of the newly-created positions as de-
tailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014; and authorizing staff to begin the pro-
cess of recruiting and filling those positions as presented by staff and outlined in
the RCA.
Councilmember McGehee reiterated her opinion that a full-time forester didn't
have sufficient expertise; and would prefer to continue with a part-time forester
position and using the remaining funds to hire outside expertise as needed versus
spending the money on a single individual.
Councilmember Laliberte recognized the positions expressed by both of her col-
leagues, and while looking forward to see how this worked out logistically in
practice, she spoke in support of a less fractured approach to forestry-related is-
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sues citywide rather than what could be accomplished through periodic outside
contracting services. Councilmember Laliberte spoke in support of the continued
goal to centralize needs and to look holistically at the overall picture to streamline
staff and financial resources.
Mayor Roe spoke in support of the motion and this position based on the need for
balance and limitations in the contracting approach versus an approach with more
continuity. In previous discussions, Mayor Roe noted that the rationale in seeking
to expand this position was based on recognizing the deficiencies with the current
part-time position. Mayor Roe suggested this was a similar expansion as done
when revising the former Recycling Coordinator position to an Environmental
Coordinator position several years ago; and as with that position, if further outside
help is needed it can be requested as appropriate.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: McGehee.
Motion carried.
d. Twin Lakes Parkway Phase Three Design Services Contract
Two bench handouts were provided, consisting of e-mails dated December 8,
2014 from David Miliotis, 1128 County Road C-2 and Karen Milton, 2939 Mil-
dred Drive, both requesting a delay in any decision regarding design of Twin
Lakes Parkway.
City Engineer Marc Culver reviewed this request as detailed in the RCA dated
December 8, 2014; noting that the City had now acquired all rights-of-way to ac-
complish this alignment and corridor, with the exception of temporary construc-
tion rights-of-way that may be needed; and was in ownership of all property
needed for the proposed expansion. Mr. Culver displayed a map of the proposed
route for the Parkway; and sought authorization for SRF Consulting Group to be
hired for design of the Parkway, Phase III, since they were also working on sever-
al other elements and under contract for other projects as noted in the RCA.
Councilmember Willmus questioned whether approval of this tonight would limit
the City Council's ability to update the traffic study.
Mr. Culver responded that it would not, and since SRF has been working on the
feasibility study, and did the traffic study for the original AUAR, they could up-
date this portion as well for area intersections.
At the request of Councilmember Willmus, Mr. Culver advised that a timeframe
to accomplish that update could be available in mid-February, after accumulating
additional data and reviewing a complete model of this area. Mr. Culver clarified
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that the traffic study update would not be done during the holiday season as it
would skew the results and make them artificially high.
Councilmember McGehee observed that the proposed Parkway appeared on the
map to cut through existing Langton Lake parkland.
Mr. Culver confirmed that at least portions of the right-of-way would involve that
parkland, but was unsure of official park boundaries. Mr. Culver noted that the
water feature in that area of the park had been constructed some time ago for
stormwater purposes; but assured Councilmembers and the public that further de-
sign review would include defining areas north and south of that area for storm-
water management. However, Mr. Culver anticipated that there would be some
impact, but the design would be intended to create the least amount of impact in
the area. With updated designs, Mr. Culver advised that water treatment and
stormwater best management practices would hopefully improve those measures
beyond what is there today.
Councilmember McGehee noted that the existing pond was built to improve
stormwater management, and opined that now staff was looking to cut it in half
and further pollute; and stated that she was not supportive of that portion of the
roadway. Councilmember McGehee stated that this was not a free road, but
would cost$120,000 for design purposes for a road estimated to cost $1.3 million.
Mr. Culver corrected that figure to indicate that the cost of the roadway was esti-
mated at $1.5 million total.
Councilmember McGehee stated that this was taxpayer money, not a free road,
and taxpayers had already paid for infrastructure in that area; questioning why
taxpayers should be required to pay additional money for a road the City would
need to maintain and with no reason for the community to support. Councilmem-
ber McGehee opined that the roadway could be designed differently to avoid the
park and water feature.
Mr. Culver reviewed the intended design and AUAR studies to-date that aligned
the Parkway to intersect with Terrace Drive for a four-way intersection to create
the most advantageous collector street and as the best option for moving traffic.
While the design of that intersection could be offset as suggested by Coun-
cilmember McGehee, Mr. Culver advised that it would not then move traffic east
and west of Fairview Avenue more efficiently or in a more convenient way as a
function of a more comprehensive road network as envisioned for the community
through studies completed to-date.
Councilmember McGehee questioned if Mr. Culver concurred with this assump-
tion to provide the stop where it was proposed at the end of Arthur Street, or con-
tinuing all the way through as viable options.
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From his professional perspective as an Engineer, Mr. Culver questioned from
what perspective "viable"was being determined. Mr. Culver advised that his rec-
ommendation would be to provide a choice for through-movements in this area;
opining that the citywide and area transportation network would be detrimentally
affected if the design were to disconnect from Twin Lakes Parkway and signifi-
cantly and negatively impact traffic to other areas in the community.
Councilmember McGehee opined that Mr. Culver was looking at the situation on-
ly from a transportation network only, and not taking into consideration environ-
mental concerns and concerns of adjacent neighbors.
Mayor Roe questioned if the pond was recently constructed in the narrow space
where the Parkway was intended to be extended. Mayor Roe further asked Mr.
Culver if he anticipated that the road could be built without polluting the pond.
Mr. Culver advised that he was unsure of the original intent; but anticipated the
road could be built without significant impact to the existing pond. Mr. Culver
noted that the map showed the entire road and right-of-way corridor through
there, but clarified that the roadway would not be that wide. Mr. Culver advised
that, as the design proceeds, a more detailed review would be undertaken to see if
there was a way to pipe stormwater underneath the roadway to reduce impacts to
the overall system as it is today.
Mayor Roe opened discussion to public comment.
Public Comment
Timothy Callaghan,3062 Shorewood Lane
Mr. Callaghan stated that he saw no way to build a roadway with wastewater,
sand and salt coming off it that would not pollute Langton Lake. Mr. Callaghan
questioned the idea of minimizing that impact, opining that it would flow into the
lake as it had no place else to go. Mr. Callaghan opined that this design was done
thirteen years ago, and questioned its validity today; opining that it wasn't a very
favorable design back then, only marginal, and what was being proposed would
have a major affect on the residential area. Mr. Callaghan further opined that traf-
fic would not continue along Terrace Drive; and the intersection of County Road
C and Snelling Avenue was already heavily overloaded, and this would dump
traffic on Fairview Avenue where it was already overloaded.
Mr. Callaghan opined that this fantastic traffic management plan took none of that
into account; and there were no indications of a change from the AUAR traffic
plan with changes already made to the Twin Lakes area (e.g. WalMart). Mr. Cal-
laghan stated that residents were told two years ago that a report would be forth-
coming on the affects of the WalMart development on traffic on Fairview; how-
ever, it was not yet included, and opined that he had been told a falsehood, since
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that information was not included in the engineer's report. Since this is a devel-
opment plan from years ago, Mr. Callaghan questioned whether it was still appro-
priate; and opined that more discussion was needed to determine if this was the
best design for the road, or whether there were ways to change it or at a minimum
reconfirm that design in today's world rather than following a plan many years
old.
Mr. Callaghan opined that many developments in the city don't follow plans, and
suggested postponing this until a detailed discussion of what was best in Twin
Lake now before more expenses. Mr. Callaghan stated that he didn't expect to
see any benefit to this whole development area within his lifetime; since over the
last 27 years the City was still holding tax increment financing money while resi-
dents were paying for all the support services that area received (e.g. snowplow-
ing, and police/fire protection) and they weren't paying for anything. Mr. Calla-
ghan opined that the City would end up with two local WalMarts, since they ini-
tially indicated this was going to be a local store, but shortly after they had closed
one in an adjacent community. Mr. Callaghan questioned how long this one
would stay open, opining that WalMart's reputation was use the best tax ad-
vantages available. Mr. Callaghan stated that the City needed to look at what they
were doing before spending any more money; and personally saw no reason to do
a lot of things that were being done.
Jerry Stoner, 2866 Merrill Street
Mr. Stoner advised that, during his discussion with Mr. Brokke during tonight's
meeting, he had received answers to most of his questions. However, Mr. Stoner
opined that the arc shown between Prior Avenue and Arthur Street was a disaster,
and questioned what it would look like in ten years. Based on his conversation
with Mr. Brokke, Mr. Stoner opined that the stormwater retention area was not ac-
tually on park land. At first glance, Mr. Stoner opined that the road didn't look
like a good thing for the park, but if proper buffering was done with Langton
Lake, Mr. Stoner questioned if this could become a blueprint for buffering on oth-
er sides of Langton Lake when developed. Mr. Stoner opined that it would be
nice to see a good job done now to provide for that blueprint later on.
Brook Tosi, 1766 Millwood Avenue
Ms. Tosi expressed concern about more traffic being funneled to County Road C
and Terrace Avenue, with traffic at the stoplight on County Road C already
backed up. Ms. Tosi asked that further consideration be given to safety concerns,
as well as echoing concerns raised by a previous speaker regarding the pond and
runoff issues.
Lisa McCormack,Wheeler Street
Ms. McCormack expressed appreciation for other speakers' comments tonight.
However, Ms. McCormack advised that her comments were with respect to the
draft contract as presented, initially understanding that its purpose was to get con-
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firmation of things moving forward. However, after further reviewing it tonight,
Ms. McCormack opined that it didn't seem to be the case, and she suggested a
more staged approach than presented in the draft agreement to obtain preliminary
data and then bring it back for an update for residents and those currently living in
the area and still getting up to speed on plans from many years ago that they may
or may not have been privy to. Ms. McCormack opined that this stepped ap-
proach could foster better information and understanding in the long-run and offer
more transparency.
Cathleen Erickson, Centennial Drive
While not being an engineer, but living one block from this proposed roadway,
Ms. Erickson stated that she knew her neighborhood having lived there for thirty
years. When this came up in August of this year, Ms. Erickson noted that the
neighborhood has asked for a traffic study, since there was so much development
proposed for that area now, and it was difficult not to feel threatened or under at-
tack. While recognizing that this was a "hot" corridor, Ms. Erickson stated that
the neighbors didn't want to be reactionary and expected development or redevel-
opment, but didn't think enough discussion of thought had gone into that devel-
opment. Ms. Erickson referenced current difficulties on Lincoln Drive to get
around the corner to Snelling Avenue, often taking three signal light cycles or
twenty minutes.
Ms. Erickson also referenced the ongoing growth and student enrollment increas-
es of Bethel University and the University of Northwestern, as well as the addi-
tional property purchases off those campuses by those institutions, as well as in-
creasing student rental housing. Ms. Erickson noted one example of a single-
family home with thirteen vehicles repeatedly parked there, with parking issues
along Lydia Avenue.
Ms. Erickson also expressed concern with construction of another main road from
Fairview, and even with a signal light, was concerned that they wouldn't be able
to get off Centennial Drive and traffic would be slowed even further, since there
was already a huge congestion point there. With a proposal to add a development
for 200 new households on Twin Lakes Parkway and Fairview Avenue, Ms. Er-
ickson asked that more time be given to thinking about the consequences; and
even with the addition of Bus Rapid Transit, opined that there would be a huge
increase in traffic.
Ms. Erickson stated that they loved their neighborhood and while not wishing to
be negative, opined that development would affect the neighborhood, including
additional school bus traffic. Most of all, Ms. Erickson stated that the neighbors
didn't want to see their neighborhood cut off from the rest of Roseville with de-
velopment surrounding them.
LacyKapaun, 1840 West County Road C-2
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Ms. Kapaun stated that she was surprised to see this on tonight's agenda; and ex-
pressed her interest in the City Council taking more time to think about the effects
of this proposal, even though a lot of thought had probably already gone into it,
but that was a long time ago. With new information available, and the possibility
of adding more traffic in front of their home, Ms. Kapaun expressed concern with
safety for her family, opining that any more congestion resulting in more acci-
dents was beyond what she could imagine.
Ms. Kapaun noted that the lake was beautiful and it was a favorite spot for her
family; however, she echoed the comments of Mr. Stoner about making a buffer
to protect Langton Lake, but expressed a need for residents to see those plans be-
fore they happen. Ms. Kapaun opined that it was making the neighborhood "cra-
zy" to see these things happening in this area without having more information
and the City keeping its promises to talk about things before the neighbors found
them listed on meeting agendas, which made neighbors feel overwhelmed. Ms.
Kapaun asked for understanding on the City Council's part and providing the
neighbors more time to allow more participation in discussions on new develop-
ment in this area.
Mayor Roe closed public comment at this time, and asked City Engineer Culver
to respond to several questions raised during those comments.
Regarding rights-of-way acquisition, Mr. Culver reviewed the area for the exist-
ing alignment as proposed, west of Fairview Avenue leading to Langton Lake
Park; with a federal grant award for acquisition of that additional right-of-way
along this Parkway alignment from the park and Prior Avenue.
At the request of Mayor Roe, Mr. Culver reviewed the process moving forward
with an engineering study and future end product. Mr. Culver advised that the
contract itself would still need to go through final design for the roadway, includ-
ing all aspects of stormwater management, geometric alignment and included
within that contract with SRF as proposed, one public meeting was included to
present that final design to the public to receive their feedback. Mr. Culver noted
that this would provide an opportunity for the public to present their concerns
about any environmental issues, after the information and facts had been com-
piled, and also include another opportunity as staff presented that final design —
and those public comments — to the City Council for their consideration and
comment on that final design. Mr. Culver note that the process would be for sev-
eral months, and then staff would prepare for the construction project beyond that,
and after approval by the City Council.
Mayor Roe noted that between this contract before the City Council tonight and
the actual construction, the City Council would still need to take action to order
bids.
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Mr. Culver concurred, noting that in addition, funding options would still need to
be finalized, with staff returning with that information as part of a feasibility
study, with any ordering of the project beyond that, and subsequent action of the
City Council for funding and ordering the project.
Councilmember Willmus advised that, before he could support construction of a
roadway, he would want an updated traffic study, and asked for more discussion
on how and where that fit into this process.
Mr. Culver advised that staff had sought updated numbers that were generated in
early November as part of the feasibility study working with SRF for other Twin
Lakes area improvements, including updated numbers on Fairview Avenue and
County Road D to answer questions since WalMart had opened. Mr. Culver dis-
played and reviewed how to interpret those preliminary numbers, noting that
some additional updating would be required on some roadways immediately adja-
cent to this Phase II of Twin Lakes Parkway. Those preliminary numbers as dis-
played are made a part of the RCA, Traffic counts were for the existing road(s),
2030 projected traffic projections not based on the full model but with current
traffic volumes and land use development to-date, including the proposed apart-
ment buildings and with consideration given to improvements programmed on I-
694 and likely improvements for the I-35W managed lane occurring along this ar-
ea. Mr. Culver clarified that there were other factors driving traffic in this area
that were beyond the Walmart development.
Taking all that into consideration, Mr. Culver reviewed Fairview Avenue as an
example of current traffic volumes,projected volume in 2030 and increases or de-
creases projected, and how that minor County arterial roadway would manage
traffic with further development in the area. Mr. Culver further reviewed impacts
to County Road D. Overall, Mr. Culver highlighted where ADT's were actually
lower in some cases for 2030 than originally projected in the 2007 AUAR.
Councilmember Willmus questioned whether there would be other infrastructure
improvements indicated along Fairview Avenue with an updated traffic study and
modeling.
Mr. Culver responded that there would be, noting that the 2007 AUAR had al-
ready identified them, clarifying that even though the document had expired, it
was still used for informational purposes in helping to determine needed im-
provements (e.g. traffic signals) as the area builds out. Mr. Culver advised that
this included coordinating with Ramsey County and other agencies to fund those
improvements as well.
Councilmember McGehee reiterated her previous comments; and opined that
whether or not Parks & Recreation Director Brokke chose to call that area park-
land or not, more than any other Councilmember at the bench, she had spent more
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time at Langton Lake than anyone. Councilmember McGehee further opined that
the City had not been a good park steward to-date, and at the initiation of the
Ramsey County Watershed District eight years ago, she had participated with wa-
ter testing under their direction; and had observed considerable parking lot drain-
age into the lake without any buffering. While recognizing that some buffering
had now been installed, Councilmember McGehee noted that the parking lots still
sloped directly to the lake.
As an example, Councilmember McGehee referenced Como Lake, which is con-
sidered dead; but Langton Lake wasn't, thanks in large part to the infiltration
pond at the request of the Watershed District, with water quality actually having
improved and now at level "c." Councilmember McGehee noted that Langton
Lake was extremely shallow and therefore very sensitive in that regard; and
opined that the City could not adequately manage roadway runoff and traffic
without further damaging the lake and its ecosystem. When talking about natural
areas, which have been requested by residents, Councilmember McGehee opined
that there was a lovely pathway around Langton Lake that met that need, with the
U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service also recognizing the area as a flyway for migrato-
ry birds. Councilmember McGehee noted that this property belonged to every-
one, including the residents surrounding the Lake; and opined that this proposed
roadway design was an unnecessary threat to this beautiful addition to the com-
munity.
Councilmember McGehee stated that she had been a big opponent of WalMart be-
ing allowed to develop, but with development of WalMart, the Metro Transit Park
& Ride, and two proposed hotels, she was observing that traffic from that area
seemed to effectively be going the other way. While recognizing the City Coun-
cil's penchant for building things, Councilmember McGehee questioned why
there was a need to do so, and "if it's not broken, don't try to fix it." Coun-
cilmember McGehee opined that this would be exactly what would happen, that
Langton Lake and Langton Lake Park and its natural environment would be bro-
ken, which would not be good for the park or the neighborhood.
Councilmember McGehee opined that the City Council had made a commitment
to the community north of there that the City would engage them in the planning
process, with this proposed road being a very important piece of that. Coun-
cilmember McGehee noted that, when the originally planning for it had taken
place in 1983, it was intended to hook up with Terrace Drive and go directly to
Snelling Avenue. However, Councilmember McGehee noted that this could and
would not take place, nor was access for development of the former PIK parcel,
originally landlocked, needed any longer with the City's completion of Mount
Ridge Road and access off roundabouts on Prior Avenue and Arthur Street.
Therefore, Councilmember McGehee opined that the two major goals of the
Parkway connection were gone. When discussing the development of the regulat-
ing plan and map for this area several years ago with consultant Michael Lamb,
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Councilmember McGehee stated that he had told her that he was told from the
outset that he was not to discuss or consider extension of the Parkway in his plan-
ning, thus circumventing his options.
Councilmember McGehee opined that traffic plans had changed, and while lots of
modeling had been done, she further opined that she was not a big fan of model-
ing.
Councilmember McGehee opined that the impact of the University of Northwest-
ern had been huge: traffic, parking and expansion off their campus; and further
opined that their campus's pollution of Little Johanna and Lake Johanna itself had
been overwhelming. Councilmember McGehee stated that she just found this
whole thing as an unreasonable clinging to something planned for in 1983 that
was now completely different. Councilmember McGehee opined that the whole
idea originally was that this area would become another CenterPointe, which it
was not going to become.
Councilmember McGehee opined that it was businesses, not retail, that provided
tax base revenue versus simply more traffic generation that the City and its tax-
payers needed to pay for. When talking about the City's tax base and protection
of residential neighborhoods, Councilmember McGehee opined that to deny this
neighborhood an opportunity to work with Community Development Director Bi-
lotta was not fair. Councilmember McGehee opined that this was not City Engi-
neer Culver's problem to solve, but one of tax benefits and the expense to resi-
dents to build yet another structure to maintain. Councilmember McGehee opined
that additional traffic routed up Fairview Avenue and onto County Road C-2 even
with planned intersection changes were also additional expenditures and the tax
increment financing proposed to pay for them could be used to buy or clean up
land. Councilmember McGehee stated that she'd seen the City of Roseville al-
ready lose two really good business prospects to the City of New Brighton be-
cause the land was not cleaned up yet; and suggested that this was another case of
"If you build it, they will come." Councilmember McGehee further opined that to
deny the neighborhood a voice in the process, with little thought given to the cur-
rent market and environment, was a terrible action environmentally.
Specific to Councilmember McGehee's reference to Parks & Recreation Director
Brokke, Councilmember Willmus opined that Mr. Brokke had done more for the
City's parks than Councilmember McGehee had ever done.
Specific to access to the interior of developable properties (e.g. the former PIK
parcel) Councilmember Willmus noted the potential for smaller businesses and
the need to provide a manner of access to allow those parcels to further subdivide,
and providing for access from all directions. Councilmember Willmus opined
that the Parkway would facilitate that, and would actually get the City away from
potential big box uses and allow those smaller businesses to come in.
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Specific to comments by Councilmember McGehee that the City had lost poten-
tial business to New Brighton, Councilmember Willmus opined that one over-
whelming factor in that was that the City of New Brighton controlled the land
versus multiple private owners of this area in Roseville.
Councilmember Willmus stated that his focus was how to move the community
forward and work with neighbors and property owners for everyone's future best
benefit, and not continue looking over their shoulder. Councilmember Willmus
opined that the best scenario to accomplish that was to pursue an updated traffic
study and determine impacts based on information received today.
Councilmember Etten sought additional information on the cost of an updated
traffic study as part of the larger work currently being done for the City by SRF.
City Engineer Culver advised that SRF would rerun the model to make sure they
had an up-to-date and accurate projection of 2030 traffic volumes, as well as im-
pacts to traffic infrastructure in this area. Mr. Culver anticipated that update
could be accomplished for an estimated additional fee of$8,000 to $10,000.
Councilmember Etten asked Mr. Culver if he saw any benefit of working with
Ramsey County for financial assistance for Lydia Avenue and/or County Road D
improvements.
Mr. Culver responded that staff continued to pressure Ramsey County for updates
for Lydia and Fairview, but their cooperation would be dependent on receipt of
federal grants or other grant funding to accomplish the work. Mr. Culver opined
that updated traffic numbers would certainly further that cause, however, he could
not guarantee it would come to fruition.
Councilmember Etten questioned if the City would derive more benefit from this
through working with other entities to relive some of the funding pressures.
Mr. Culver responded that it had already been determined with the 2007 AUAR
that these improvements would ultimately be needed, and opined that an updated
traffic study would allow the City to put pressure on those other entities to move
those remedies forward. Mr. Culver advised that staff had informally continued
to discuss with those entities the shifting of their focus to Lydia Avenue, County
Road D and Fairview Avenue.
Councilmember Laliberte noted that, at the beginning of tonight's meeting, she
had sought to delay this discussion.
Laliberte moved, McGehee seconded, not acting on this design services contract
at this time; inviting Public Works staff and Commissioner McGuire to discuss
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the entire Fairview Avenue area prior to pursuing a larger discussion with neigh-
borhood residents.
Councilmember McGehee offered a friendly amendment that at the same time the
City Council ask Public Works staff to fund and make available the updated traf-
fic study as requested by residents.
Councilmember Laliberte stated that she was not sure how she felt about that
friendly amendment; while agreeing that the City needed an updated traffic study,
it would be an educated guess at this point as it how it may impact Fairview Ave-
nue.
Councilmember McGehee withdrew her friendly amendment. Councilmember
McGehee opined that the least that the City Council could do was to pursue their
commitment to the community. Councilmember McGehee stated that she had re-
peatedly said to residents that this was a better City Council in terms of wanting
to facilitate interaction and work with residents and try to understand their per-
spectives. To push this design forward through approval of this contract at this
time, Councilmember McGehee opined was not in that spirit at all, since there
remained plenty of information yet to seek.
Councilmember Etten opined that there was no reason this action needed to stop
the City's communication with neighbors, and it was important to continue it, and
this would provide additional information to facilitate those discussions, as well
as addressing any issues related to maintaining the water ponding or adding new
elements as part of any environmental work needed around that development,
along with environmental clean-up issues around Langton Lake. Councilmember
Etten noted that this study, along with the traffic study was all part of that. From
that perspective, Councilmember Etten spoke in opposition to the motion.
As a result of this and even though it will generate information, Councilmember
McGehee opined that, from her experience, once you approve going ahead with
the design process, it precluded any further discussion.
Mayor Roe stated that he did not support the motion to delay action; and ex-
pressed his willingness to have discussions with residents or anyone interested in
the project. Mayor Roe noted that the City had already approved and accom-
plished right-of-way purchase for the Parkway as designed and for construction as
shown, all decisions and actions of this very City Council. With the City Council
fully informed about and throughout the process, to now imply that discussions
with neighbors may change that location and general design, Mayor Roe opined
was not fair to the neighbors to make promises that could not be kept when those
changes were no longer an option. Mayor Roe stated that this engineering project
would provide the additional information needed to help inform the overall pro-
cess; and for those residents not previously involved, offered to provide ways to
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get that information to them for their edification. Mayor Roe opined that from his
personal analysis there were many more benefits in pursuing Phase III of Twin
Lakes Parkway than concerns; and opined that those benefits ultimately out-
weighed the concerns. Therefore, Mayor Roe reiterated his opposition to a mo-
tion to delay the design work.
Councilmember Laliberte challenged Mayor Roe's statement that because right-
of-way had already been purchased, nothing could be done because of that, was
not the only solution, as that acquired property could always be put back on the
market.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte.
Nays: McGehee,Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Motion failed.
Willmus moved, Laliberte seconded, pursuing an updated traffic study prior to en-
tering into a contract for design of Phase III of Twin lakes Parkway, and at a cost
estimated at $8,000 to $10,000.
At the request of Councilmember Etten, Mr. Culver estimated approximately 3-6
months for completion of the updated traffic study, as part of the current work
under the RCA.
At the request of Councilmember Laliberte, Mr. Culver advised that for any fur-
ther development in the area, an updated traffic study would be needed; and pend-
ing any land use changes beyond current development proposals in process, the
traffic study remained doable and could be incorporated within those timeframes.
Mr. Culver reiterated that data would be collected throughout January, and once
the model was updated and redone, it could be tweaked if needed and if a land use
change came into play. However, with the current developments and/or current
proposals taken into account, Mr. Culver stated that he did not see any reason oth-
er elements could not be incorporated into that study.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus.
Nays: Roe and Etten.
Motion carried.
With agenda items 14.a and 14.b remaining, at approximately 10:00 p.m., Willmus moved,
Etten seconded,to extend the meeting to the conclusion of the remaining agenda items.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: McGehee.
Motion carried
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14. Business Items—Presentations/Discussions
a. Request by the Community Development Department for Direction on the
Creation of a Formal Voluntary Environmental Assessment Worksheet
(EAW) Waiver Process for Projects Zoned Community Mixed-Use (CMU) in
the Twin Lakes Redevelopment Area
Community Development Director Paul Bilotta and City Planner Thomas Paschke
were present to discuss this draft worksheet, as detailed in the RCA dated Decem-
ber 8, 2014. Mr. Bilotta explained that the worksheet actually mirrored pieces of
a formal Environmental Assessment Worksheet (EAW), but where the City's Al-
ternative Urban Area-wide Review (AUAR) indicated there was no issue it pro-
vided a level of review at a more cursory nature based on those lesser elements.
Mr. Bilotta noted that the City Council could then determine where specific
changes may be needed, mostly related to traffic issues, stormwater and hazard-
ous waste materials onsite, along with any other elements that may be evident as
well.
On page 5, #26 (Visual Impacts), Councilmember Etten asked for more infor-
mation on what and how those visual impacts would be identified.
City Planner Paschke advised that it was taken from the existing AUAR and de-
pended on how it was answered at that time.
Mr. Bilotta advised that it may vary depending on the actual location, and would
be at City Council discretion to consider those issues for each project.
If someone proposed something that the City Council considered applicable,
Councilmember Etten asked if applicants were then not required to repeat that
analysis; opining that he thought the visual impact should be part of the prelimi-
nary review process.
Mayor Roe concurred, opining that, even if the answer in the AUAR process was
"no," the City Council should still have the option of asking the question versus
simply eliminating it.
Mr. Paschke responded that staff thought an applicant should answer every ques-
tions, depending on the location of the development, to determine if and how it
was applicable, prior to the project being presented to the City Council for their
review and consideration.
Mayor Roe opined that he preferred that the applicant answer ALL questions.
Councilmember Etten concurred, that he preferred them all included.
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McGehee moved, Willmus seconded, adoption of Resolution No. 11198 entitled,
"A Resolution Superseding and Repealing Resolution no. 11015, and Replacing it
with the Roseville Environmental Review Worksheet Application (PFOJ0032); as
detailed in the RCA dated December 8, 2014; similar in form to that provided as
a draft(Attachment D).
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Willmus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
b. Discuss City Council and Staff Retreat
City Manager briefly summarized this discussion as detailed in the RCA dated
December 8, 2014.
Councilmember McGehee suggested, if discussing personnel-related issues, could
a portion of the retreat be held in Closed Session.
City Attorney Gaughan responded that the retreat could not be held in Closed
Session; and clarified that such a Closed Session for the purpose of personnel re-
view for someone directly under the authority of the City Council, could only be
held if and when duly noticed. City Attorney Gaughan further clarified that,
whether this was a City Council retreat or a regular meeting, it remained subject
to all of the same Open Meeting Laws in accordance with applicable State Statute.
Councilmember Willmus stated that he was not really interested in hiring a facili-
tator; and if the retreat was agreed upon, would like it to focus on strategic plan-
ning or goal setting. Regarding public access to the meeting, Councilmember
Willmus opined that, since it was a meeting of the City Council, access should be
afforded to the public; but remained open as to whether through live broadcast or
videotaping for later viewing. Councilmember Willmus based his concern in
open access with that of former Roseville City Council Work Sessions that gave
the perception of a closed environment, and therefore, made it difficult to deter-
mine the intent of meeting discussions. Councilmember Willmus stated that he
was open to meeting during the middle of the workday if that proved more con-
venient for staff. Councilmember Willmus opined that the retreat did not require
two days.
Councilmember Laliberte agreed that her vision of a retreat was for the purpose of
goal setting, prioritization and proactive planning; and also did not see a need for
a facilitator, as she was not in favor of spending money on a facilitator and/or an-
other location. Councilmember Laliberte opined that the retreat should be record-
ed and should have meeting minutes; but was open to whether or not it was
broadcast live or held on videotape for the archives. With enough prior notice as
to the date and time, Councilmember Laliberte stated that she was supportive of a
weekday retreat if it was easier for staff to attend, and advised that she could be
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available as long as there was sufficient time for planning her work schedule
ahead. Councilmember Laliberte also agreed that two days were not necessary
for the retreat.
Councilmember Etten concurred with the strategic planning and goal setting pur-
pose, and supported having staff involved, as well as doing it during the weekday.
Councilmember Etten suggested a Friday afternoon meeting with staff for four or
five quality hours, but no more than that; and then if necessary the City Council
could continue the next morning (Saturday) for a few hours. Councilmember Et-
ten spoke in support of using the City Council Chambers; or suggested one of the
new park structures (e.g. Lexington Park) that would allow the brain to operate
differently and be a positive change from the normal location. Councilmember
Etten spoke in strong support of having minutes, and if held at an alternative site,
was fine with having a videotape for the archives, which would preclude the need
for a live broadcast.
Mayor Roe noted that it was easier to do videotaping or a live broadcast if the Re-
treat was held in the City Council Chambers, and agreed that he saw no need to
go off-site. Regarding an agenda, Mayor Roe supported strategic planning and
City Council and City goals for the next year, along with prioritizing them.
Mayor Roe opined that having it on a weekday was good for the part of the Re-
treat involving staff; and several half days would probably be adequate. Regard-
ing a facilitator, Mayor Roe advised that, having served as a Facilitator while act-
ing as Chairperson, from his past experience had not been productive, nor allow
him to participate in discussions. Mayor Roe suggested that facilitator services
may be available at a more reasonable cost than originally estimated by staff; and
suggested several resources, including Barbara Raye as an option.
Councilmember McGehee opined that hiring a facilitator didn't represent that
much of an expense, if you wanted to have the Chairperson running the meeting
as well as participating in discussions. Councilmember McGehee suggested that
the cost could come out of Communication Funds reserves.
Councilmember Willmus advised that he was not necessarily against hiring a fa-
cilitator,just against spending the money to provide one, and suggested looking to
other"free"options.
Mayor Roe suggested a look at alternatives may provide less expensive options
for a facilitator.
Councilmember Laliberte expressed her openness to resources available; and
spoke in support of having part of the meeting with staff and the other part with-
out staff if broken into two partial days.
Councilmember Etten stated that he'd be open to a facilitator who could move
discussions in a positive manner and forward versus circling around. Coun-
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cilmember Etten also spoke in support of having staff available for part of the
meeting, or possibly before and after the City Council meetings. However, Coun-
cilmember Etten stated that he'd like to initially hear from staff to work into a
broader discussion.
Mayor Roe spoke in support of staff's involvement, as long as their participation
was not in the form of a "presentation" but part of a general discussion and with
everyone getting their fair share of time.
Mayor Roe opined that he was impressed with this City Council, and that it was
one of the most effective City Council's he'd served with to-date.
City Manager Trudgeon advised that he would take this feedback and return with
suggestions and a proposed framework for the City Councils January 5, 2015 or-
ganizational meeting; along with potential dates and other logistics for finaliza-
tion. Mr. Trudgeon sought the City Council's intent for staff's involvement; with
Mayor Roe responding that several concepts were brought forward tonight, and
would need further fleshing out.
Councilmember Laliberte supported Councilmember Etten's suggestion for con-
versations with Department Heads as the first part of the Retreat allowing City
Councilmembers to digest that information and factor it into their priorities, and
then spending the second half of the meeting without staff and in planning strate-
gies and goals.
Mayor Roe questioned if Councilmember Laliberte was supporting staff remain-
ing available as a resource or not; she responded that she would not ask them to
come in on a Saturday; but was suggesting that the City Council use that time to
discuss their goals and priorities and what they wanted to accomplish over the
next year.
Mayor Roe questioned what might happen if the City Council set their goals that
were not in line with staff's' with Councilmember Laliberte expressing her assur-
ance that staff would be quick to subsequently set things straight.
15. City Manager Future Agenda Review
City Manager Trudgeon distributed written preliminary agendas for several upcoming
meetings.
16. Councilmember-Initiated Items for Future Meetings
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17. Adjourn
Willmus moved, Etten seconded adjournment of the meeting at approximately 10:19 p.m.
Roll Call
Ayes: Laliberte, McGehee, Wilimus, Etten, and Roe.
Nays: None.
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Pat Trudgeon
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 4:29 PM
To: *RVCouncil; Kari Collins; Pat Trudgeon
Subject: Online Form Submittal: Contact City Council
The following form was submitted via your website: Contact City Council
Subject:Twin Lakes Parkway
Name:: Karen Milton
Address:: 2939 Mildred Drive
City:: Roseville
State: : MN
Zip:: 55113
How would you prefer to be contacted? Remember to fill in the corresponding contact information.: Email
Email Address:: miltonka28@gmail.com
Phone Number:: 651-636-0543
Please Share Your Comment, Question or Concern: I urge you to postpone until February the decision on the Twin Lakes
Parkway routing. We local residents deserve to have input into this decision which will greatly affect our neighborhood
permanently. This proposed route onto Fairview will bring thousands of cars into the neighborhood and should not be
rushed. Please listen to your constituents and delay this decision.
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Pat Trudgeon
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Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:51 PM
To: *RVCouncil; Kari Collins; Pat Trudgeon
Subject: Online Form Submittal: Contact City Council
The following form was submitted via your website: Contact City Council
Subject:Twin Lakes Parkway Design
Name:: David Miliotis
Address:: 1128 County Road C2
City:: Roseville
State: : MN
Zip:: 55113
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Email Address:: djmiliotis@msn.com
Phone Number:: 651-261-8884
Please Share Your Comment, Question or Concern: Dear Mayor Roe and Councilmembers,
My name is Dave Miliotis. I've been a homeowner at 1128 County Road C2 in Roseville for the last 15 years. I'm writing
to you to request that the Council delay any further discussion on the Twin Lakes Phase 3 Parkway Extension project for
the following reasons:
1. Lack of Recent Planning—the original Master Plan for the Twin Lakes area,the Twin Lakes Business Park AUAR,
was originally adopted in 2001 as part of the City's Comprehensive Plan.The developments, assumptions, and
projections associated with this project are now 15 years old, and the changes in and around the surrounding area are
vastly different than what was assumed at the time.
2. Economic Costs—There is no clear plan to finance this project.Tax Increment Financing (TIF) is not free.
Assessing"benefiting properties" places an unfair burden on property owners,finding additional TIF funds or general
funds to finance this project is shortsighted,takes dollars away from other city needs, and needs further discussion.
3. Impact to Neighborhoods—By far, what I am most concerned about is the impact to neighborhoods in and
around County Road C2 which are projected to the bear the brunt of increased traffic from this project if it connects,
even indirectly, with County Road C2. I was the co-leader of the Save C2 neighborhood association which staunchly
opposed the opening of C2 between Lexington and Hamline in 2012, and I am just as opposed to creating a potentially
increased traffic burden on this road. Since the opening of C2, I continuously observe vehicles traveling well above the
posted speed limits. I have been narrowly missed by inattentive motorists when retrieving mail from my mailbox. I
routinely clean up roadside trash from my front lawn discarded from passing vehicles. I have watched drivers take risks
attempting to cross or turn north onto Lexington Ave. In short, since the opening of C2, there has been a significant
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decrease in safety and livability on this road, and adding more traffic from the Twin Lakes Parkway will make a bad
situation even worse. C2 has already become yet another east-west connector to get people through Roseville as quickly
as possible, which flies in the face of our stated desire for Roseville to be a destination for families and for others to put
down roots and stay long term.
Let me be perfectly clear—we can't unring the bell on C2. What's done is done. I regret the Council's decision in 2012 to
open C2, and I can't change the fact that it's now open. However, I'm not writing to complain about what happened in
the past to C2. Instead, let me propose that all of us be part of what happens to the future of C2. I urge you to open the
planning discussion for Twin Lakes Parkway to citizen input, to seek approval from residents on how this project will be
funded, to allow citizens and city planners to work together collaboratively and transparently to arrive at a parkway
solution that finds a compromise between commercial development and livable neighborhoods.
And so Mayor Roe, Councilmembers, I urge to you delay making a decision on the Twin Lakes Parkway Design project
tonight. Instead, I ask that citizens be given more information to understand the project's economic, environmental and
neighborhood impacts. Please give us a chance to have input into this project.
Thanks for your careful consideration, and for your continued service to our community.
David Miliotis
1128 County Road C2
Roseville, MN 55113
651-261-8884
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