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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,August 17,2015 Page 15 and coming to a decision for the senior discount program, opining she found no need to consider another subsidy in a different way. Councilmember Etten noted having had this discussion in the past and decision resulting in the council action supporting the current rate structure and situation. Councilmember Etten advised that it would take him more time for a thorough read of the information provided by Councilmember McGehee and determination as to whether it provided any actual savings before he could respond beyond to- night's initial read. Mayor Roe expressed his desire to make sure the City Council had that discussion prior to charging the Finance Commission in pursuing it; and expressed his will- ingness for Councilmember McGehee to bring this back for further discussion in the future if supported by the Council majority. Discussion ensued regarding whether the Finance Commission felt any new in- formation came out of Councilmember McGehee's analysis. Commissioner Bachhuber noted the Commission's previous support for and their analysis of the current structure and the logic of that structure. Commissioner Bachhuber opined that if the City Council charged the Commission with looking further into how it set utility rates, it needed to be done using a full set of criteria including other factors as part of that analysis. From the point of view of the Commission, Commissioner Bachhuber opined it would not factor in as a super high priority and while there were certainly different dimensions to consider than the current structure, there was no perfect system, but the consensus of the Com- mission was that this current structure provided an awesome starting point. Commissioner Byrne agreed with Commissioner Bachhuber that any rate design in general had flaws, but noted the need to consider costs, benefits and all pros and cons, as well as subsidies in one place versus another. However, Commis- sioner Byrne opined that a more productive conversation may be to consider the potential complications with a block rate and harms for low income/high usage customers to achieve conservation. If the Commission were to check the math on bonding — or staff— Commissioner Byrne echoed her colleague that considering another funding mechanism would be low on her priority list. As a newer resi- dent of Roseville, Commissioner Byrne referenced her personal reaction to the water rates in Roseville until she understood it better; and while the base rate is higher she admitted she still paid attention to her water usage. Commissioner Byrne noted this current structure sent a strong signal to users that there was a cost for the infrastructure they were using it. Mayor Roe noted the apparent policy question involved here seemed to be more social in nature and expressed his lack of interest in asking the Finance Commis- sion to weigh in on a social policy. If the City Council discussion is whether to