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Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes – Wednesday, April 6, 2016 Page 16 with enough flexibility and the “approximately perpendicular” language was not needed as 751 proposed by staff. Chair Boguszewski suggested the question remained for future decision- 752 making if all understood that “radial” differentiated from Roseville’s version of “radial.” Rather than 753 relying on city code, Chair Boguszewski suggested that the general definition of “radial” would be 754 more dependable for all parties. 755 Member Murphy questioned if enough facts or sufficient information was available for the 756 commission to act on this recommendation tonight. Member Murphy stated his preference for 757 code definitions that were consistent and interpretable by a court or lawyer. 758 Using that preference, Chair Boguszewski suggested language excluding “approximately,” 759 Member Murphy expressed his interest in seeing the city code referenced by Member Bull before 760 making a decision either way. 761 Mr. Lloyd displayed a copy of sections of city code, both zoning and subdivision sections, noting 762 that he found no definition of “radial” in either section. 763 Chair Boguszewski questioned the need for “radial” if revised language includes “approximately” 764 for either radial or perpendicular following the concept of approximation. 765 Member Gitzen noted that “radial” applied to curves in common usage, while perpendicularity 766 didn’t apply to a curve but only a straight line. 767 Chair Boguszewski asked for staff’s rationale in requesting this text amendment, whether it was 768 seeking to forestall any future confusion or contention in its application, or where it had arisen 769 before or been an issue or created an area of disagreement. 770 Mr. Lloyd reported that he couldn’t recall any specific issues specific to “radial,” but advised that 771 after the Wheaton Woods project, staff was seeking to amend the text to avoid any binds with 772 future situations or applications; and used the displayed city map to cite other examples. 773 Given the ability to plat as shown, Chair Boguszewski opined that if “radial” was already defined 774 in city code as referenced by Member Bull, and if and when that reference could be identified and 775 if applicable, there would be no need to revise text to include “approximately.” 776 Mr. Lloyd opined that in that case, any old angle would and could apply. 777 Chair Boguszewski suggested not taking action on this request tonight, but allow the synopsis of 778 this discussion and additional research by staff between now and the next discussion, with 779 assistance in finding the city code reference mentioned by Member Bull, for presentation to the 780 City Council outlining that the Commission wasn’t able to make a viable recommendation on this 781 minor text amendment. Chair Boguszewski noted another option would be to recommend 782 approval striking “approximately.” 783 Member Daire questioned what was trying to be accomplished. Member Daire opined that 784 whether or not there was a prescription for a lot size in either or both zoning or subdivision code, 785 the idea was to be able to calculate lot area and find out whether or not complies with the 786 minimum spelled out in code. For that reason, Member Daire suggested it may be more desirable 787 to say something about the side lot lines being parallel to each other and as rectangular as 788 possible. In the example used by Mr. Lloyd, Member Daire noted only one side was irregular; and 789 the ability to calculate area was simpler if lots were rectangular in shape and side lines parallel 790 versus radial requiring geometrical calculations. 791 Mr. Lloyd responded by noting that the goal was not based on calculating lot area or having 792 regular shaped lots or simplicity in reviewing particular proposals, but more about the fact that 793 irregularly shaped lots were more difficult for people to understand boundaries. Due to the 794 relationship of streets and homes on lots, Mr. Lloyd noted that assumptions were often made 795 about lot lines, and when those became less predictable, it became more difficult to know 796 intuitively where they were. Mr. Lloyd advised that the goal was to have lots regularly shaped for 797 simplicity in that regard. 798 Member Gitzen spoke in support of staff’s proposal to include the word “approximately,” and if no 799 city code definition for “radial” was found, nothing would be lost or gained. 800