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Planning Commission –Comprehensive Plan Update Minutes –Wednesday, January 25, 2017 Page 12 Member Bull suggested qualifying goals with elements of the topic (e.g. where 424 we live, work and play) and what is the quality of life in each of those three 425 aspects. 426 Chair Boguszewski noted there were a lot oftools that could be adjunct to this 427 (e.g. community survey) and some ready-made metrics that prove achievement of 428 some of those former goals. 429 Member Gitzen suggested then, at that point, the goals be retained or serve as 430 suggested by Member Daire as a continued goal. 431 Sense of Community 432 Ms. Perdunoted many comments were received one way or the other on a 433 community center. 434 Chair Boguszewski suggested it wasn’t stating that a community center was 435 needed, but as a means to achieve a quality of life. 436 Mr. Lloydconcurred, or as a way to facilitate quality of life. 437 Resident Investment 438 Ms. Perdunoted not many comments were made on this topic; opining that 439 community survey data could inform community engagement and city 440 responsiveness. 441 Strong Sense of Community 442 Member Bull noted the pros and cons of neighborhood identifiers, opining that he 443 was seeing that throughout the city today, whether it was a goal or not. Member 444 Bull suggested thinking more about that and potentially revising it, opining that 445 sometimes neighborhood identification created stovepipes when the city was 446 attempt into build a sense of community rather than disparate groups. 447 Member Kimble opined that they were more organic and assets to a community; 448 noting that some cities around Roseville had developed communities through 449 those neighborhoods. 450 Chair Boguszewski suggested “enable” versus “promote;” with Member Kimble 451 suggesting language such as “tolerate” versus “promote” 452 Member Bull suggested more thought be put into it and how to build 453 neighborhoodsinto the sense of the total community instead of either/or. 454 With this goal, Member Daire stated that he felt strongly about neighborhood 455 organizations as a response mechanism and that they should be encouraged. 456 However, Member Daire stated that it struck him that a reason for people to give 457 of their time to organize or accomplish something may vary and may be without 458 any sense of competitiveness from one neighborhood or another. Member Daire 459 opined that it took art and skill to do, and while he remained infavor of it, it 460 provided for no immediate appearance of what it takes to develop an organization. 461 Using the McCarron’s Lake Neighborhood Association as an example, Member 462