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Regular City Council Meeting Monday,July 17,2017 Page 10 Councilmember Willmus stated that this then becomes a conversation as to the City of Roseville's comfort level to jump in. While not saying "no," Coun- cilmember Willmus stated that he was still up in the air and would need a better understanding of the build-out, annual lease costs, annualized staffing and opera- tional costs, and whether that included 24/7 staffing and what other costs would be involved in bringing in other partner groups and social events at that location. Councilmember Willmus requested additional information from the Foundation on other communities with existing substations and how they've affected sur- rounding areas to better inform his decision-making. Councilmember Etten stated that he, along with others in that area of Roseville, had long been a proponent of this substation idea, but noted his hesitancy as num- bers continued to grow to accomplish the goal. Councilmember Etten opined that other potential funding partners needed a push for more commitment (e.g. Ram- sey County Department of Social Services) as it became harder to determine who in actuality would be involved. While he supported the Karen Organization of Minnesota(KOM) as a good partner, Councilmember Etten questioned how much funding they would have available when they already had their own office to sup- port and whether their formal participation had been requested at this point. While supporting the City of Roseville's leadership with this effort, Councilmem- ber Etten expressed his concerns with staffing costs and how to make it a smooth operation and a new resource in that area of the community, with costs already projected over $100,000 annually over the next five years without regular staffing costs figured in. Councilmember Etten opined that was a big number to consider in the overall city budget. Councilmember Etten also expressed his concern in re- cently learning that the City of St. Paul had pulled out of their last police substa- tion venture and statements that they no longer thought that was a good way to accomplish their work. With this representing a unique circumstance, Coun- cilmember Etten stated his big concerns as to whether or not it would work out. Mayor Roe echoed the comments of his colleagues, stating the need to identify partners and their actual commitments, including the big role Ramsey County played in this opportunity. Mayor Roe noted that he had not previously consid- ered private entities that could provide services in that space as well as communi- ty policing. Mayor Roe supported the need to better define costs and funding be- fore moving forward; and while supporting the potential for the City of Roseville taking the lead, noted that he was also cognizant of the track record of past substa- tion efforts, including better understanding the rationale in the City of St. Paul abandoning their substation efforts and what model they had used or if it was simply a financial and/or prioritization issue for them. While a five year lease was not a long-term commitment and the city could always learn from its mis- takes and efforts to think outside the box, Mayor Roe stated that he also didn't want to spend significant money if it could be spent in other ways that would be more cost-effective. Therefore, before he could support going down this path, Mayor Roe advised that he needed additional information on potential opportuni-