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398 Chair Cihacek thought what was missing was the narrative. What the information 399 shows is that everything will be even next year but what this did not show him 400 was assumed risk or the actual projections of what will make this work in the 401 future. He would like to know what some of the foundational assumptions are. 402 This would give the Commission an idea that this will work in the sense of a long- 403 term plan. He did not think there was anything wrong with the rates. He did not 404 know if it was relevant in what the Commission recommends at this point because 405 it is already because it is already being addressed by other policy mechanisms, but 406 he did think there should be some conversation about this. 407 408 Mr. Freihammer thought there could be another discussion about how the capital 409 side works because to him the way the capital, which is tied to the base rate on all 410 of them, all replacement items are in the CIP and it is all detailed out along with 411 vehicle replacements. The capital cost is fairly well figured out and staff is 412 looking out twenty years and taking a long look at this. The City cannot control 413 everything that the Met Council or St. Paul Regional Water does, that is tied to 414 the usage. 415 416 Member Wozniak indicated he would like to see more of a Public Works voice in 417 this document. 418 419 Mr. Freihammer stated the Public Works side comes in on the capital side and the 420 CIP is continually being updated to make sure everything is covered and updating 421 the costs of items. 422 ' 423 Member Trainor thought from his perspective this is one of those situations where 424 he was not sure if the Commission can give a recommendation. The Commission 425 has limited perspective as Commission Members in this kind of material and what 426 the Commission is presented with are charts without any explanation. 427 428 Mr. Freihammer stated as a resident what did the Commissioner think of the six 429 percent increase. 430 431 Chair Cihacek thought it was a workable increase, but his concern is that over 432 time the increase may be significant because the City did not have an adequate 433 program for future costs. If the City is only increasing based on anticipated cost 434 in a given year it seems too conservative and he thought costs may escalate more 435 than revenues. He stated he prefers to have more assets than liabilities. 436 437 Member Misra agreed and thought the Commission was working from the 438 assumption that the variable that the City cannot control is what the City charges. 439 It seems to her that from this Commission's perspective the Commission could be 440 talking about things like what is the duration of the I&I sediment improvements 441 and what is the City doing about impervious surfaces which the Commission has 442 talked about affecting water quality as well as the more impervious surfaces are Page 10 of 15