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79 Mr. Culver did not know if the City saw substantial increases in construction costs 80 this year but next year could be very interesting. 81 82 Mr. Freihammer explained that every year when staff does its budget CIP they 83 project out twenty years on the Capital Replacement and try to keep it up to date, 84 especially for the lift stations, to see what they are currently paying. 85 86 Vice -Chair Ficek asked if the City should look at figures to see if an increase to the 87 stormwater fund to try to build a surplus and try to plan for improvements in the 88 future. 89 90 Mr. Culver indicated they have not. There has been internal discussion but nothing 91 has been looked at. He indicated staff should look at this because they will end up 92 spending the capital dollars in the future. For next year's CIP process they should 93 probably bump up the expenditures in some of the out years, looking five years and 94 beyond. 95 96 Member Collins indicated he had a question about the storm sewer system. He 97 understood staff has not pinpointed all of the problems yet, but he wondered if staff 98 had an idea of where they would start if they had to. 99 100 Mr. Culver explained one of the big liabilities out there is the ponds. Staff knows 101 they have a lot of ponds that need dredging. Unfortunately, a lot of the costs related 102 to that is the disposal of the material. It needs to be tested for contamination and 103 then it would need to be placed in a landfill, which is very expensive. Staff has a 104 decent idea about the cost. The other side is staff is seeing some sink holes and 105 outlet structures that are separating from the pipe that are very difficult to get to. 106 Staff has a growing list of known issues that will need to be taken care of. Staff 107 does not have a handle on the magnitude of that at this time, particularly the pipes 108 themselves underground. 109 110 Mr. Freihammer indicated on the storm sewer system the City is very reactionary 111 and when the City does a road mill and overlay the only thing that might be 112 upgraded is the catch basins because there are usually inspections done on those 113 and, if failing, they get replaced. Very rarely is the mainline pipe excavated and 114 replaced. 115 116 Chair Wozniak asked if there is any relationship between how much the City spends 117 on stormwater management and how much precipitation the City gets in a year. 118 119 Mr. Culver explained what is interesting is with the changes in climate there are 120 more intense rainfalls and rain events and that does actually have an impact on the 121 stormwater system. A lot of the requirements the City has for new developments 122 and redevelopments or even reconstruction are because of that. The City recognizes 123 that the current stormwater system is under designed for today, and certainly for 124 tomorrow, as the rain events become more intense. It is not that the City is getting Page 3 of 6