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165 Ms. Rebecca Heisel, Great Plains Institute, made a presentation on electric charging <br />166 stations. <br />167 <br />168 Chair Wozniak thanked Ms. Heisel for the presentation. He indicated there was so <br />169 much information in the presentation. <br />170 <br />171 Member Misra indicated it was mentioned that a big part of the expense has to do <br />172 with the distance from the electrical source and she wondered what defined the <br />173 electrical source. <br />174 <br />175 Ms. Heisel explained it is the transformer, where the electricity is coming from. <br />176 <br />177 Chair Wozniak explained he was really interested in the EV Ready for <br />178 Communities pilot program and he looked forward to that being unveiled. He hoped <br />179 they can continue that conversation as the date gets closer. <br />180 <br />181 Vice Chair Ficek indicated Ms. Heisel talked about the three different levels of <br />182 charging and then there are the different levels of fast charging, he wondered if the <br />183 cost difference that much between them. He asked why someone would go with a <br />184 level two versus a DC fast charger. <br />185 <br />186 Ms. Heisel indicated the DC fast chargers are significantly more expensive to <br />187 install. Part of that is the upgrading of the electric infrastructure to be able to handle <br />188 pulling that much energy from the grid at one time. People do go with level two <br />189 chargers just because it is much less expensive than a fast charger. <br />190 <br />191 Vice Chair Ficek asked how much does a level two cost versus a level three. <br />192 <br />193 Ms. Heisel indicated it is hard to say, a level two charger can cost in the ballpark of <br />194 $400 but then there is the installation costs as well, which depending on where it <br />195 is, can increase or decrease that price. A DC fast charger can range from $1,500 to <br />196 upwards of $40,000 just because of the installation and the electrical grid upgraded <br />197 needed to be done. <br />198 <br />199 Mr. Culver asked if the public chargers that have been installed by other cities, are <br />200 there subscriptions or pay by use for the users or does the city generally provide <br />201 electricity to those. <br />202 <br />203 Ms. Heisel explained it is whatever the city prefers. Typically right now money is <br />204 not being made back on these and is why she prefers smart charging because if a <br />205 dumb charger is purchased it can never be charged for use of that charger. With a <br />206 smart charger there is that option. She thought this was a personal preference by <br />207 cities. <br />208 <br />Page 5 of 9 <br />