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171 Chair Ficek stated that at the top of the list, affected businesses, he noticed a couple 172 of differences from St. Louis Park that they included food trucks and gas stations. 173 He wondered if there was any reason to include or not include them. 174 175 Ms. Bakken thought gas stations could probably fall under, if the City wanted to 176 include, some of the exemptions like foods prepackaged by the manufacturer. 177 There will probably not be a lot of freshly prepared take away foods from gas 178 stations besides hot dogs. The city does have a handful of food trucks that station 179 in various parts around the city and would be something that would come up 180 occasionally. A lot of food trucks, because they are mobile and working among 181 some of the different cities, have probably encountered this in Minneapolis, 182 St. Paul, and St. Louis Park already so a lot of the food trucks are probably already 183 using materials that are pretty compliant. She would not see any issues with that 184 personally. 185 186 Member Hodder thought some of the food trucks may need to have some education 187 because a few he has encountered still use the Styrofoam containers. 188 AL 189 Mr. Culver thought it was important to keep in mind that staff all agree and the 190 Commission understands, just based on Member Hodder's last comment, whatever 191 is recommended for an ordinance is going to be a really slow roll on the actual 192 enforcement of it. It might be a year or more and he was not sure what the Council 193 would want to do. 194 195 Chair Ficek asked when they talk about phased, does that mean it is a long time 196 until full implementation with a lot of education with a set date where everything 197 goes into effect or do they start with one thing being in effect and other things are 198 added along the way until there is a full implementation. 199 200 Ms. Bakken explained her thought on that is because the City is not sure about the 201 timing of Ramsey County's curbside pickup, roll out is going to be and could be as 202 late as mid -year to late next year for Roseville. She indicated if she was going to 203 implement this she would start with 2023 as being an educational period and, at the 204 very earliest, start 2024 as starting to ban materials and starting to try to enforce it. 205 She would start with banning plastic number six, banning Styrofoam, requiring 206 maybe recyclable and compostable options. A very baby step approach. She talked 207 to a restaurant that said compostable materials are twice as expensive as Styrofoam 208 containers so the business does not intend to continue to use them once his grant 209 recycling money goes away so making sure the restaurant owners know what the 210 recyclable options are because those are probably going to be less of a cost burden, 211 which is important. 212 213 Member Hodder thought as far as the restaurants are concerned, they are still 214 struggling with the effects of the Pandemic and staffing and he thought a phased 215 approach would be prudent. 216 Page 5 of 9