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Regular City Council Meeting Monday, April 17, 2023 Page 2 education or experience. Because if a person was interviewed with perhaps a lesser degree than what the job position states but has relevant experience or demonstrable skills in a certain area then what is listed in the job position is not actually the minimum requirement. She thought it was getting more honest about what is actually required versus preferred, and they poke at that a little bit as those job descriptions come back and also these do bubble up during the position scoring a lot of times. She also thought the current labor market has made people more flexible in reality, open to interviewing more candidates, and being more open to other sort of non-traditional experiences and skills. Mayor Roe thought it was just a matter of making sure the City Staff builds it into the system that the City is not artificially excluding people and wanting to make sure that the requirements advertised,or all those types of things are really what the City is looking for. He wanted to make sure that the City as an organization has a system to make sure that this actually works the way it is supposed to. Councilmember Strahan explained educational achievement has not proven to be a predictor of job success and there are many other things around that. She noted education inflation is very real. Ms. Davis explained the job descriptions are intended to capture that and Abdo is definitely attentive to that while reviewing them. As far as making it work, it needs to be a combination of the job description and interview process. A lot of times people bring soft skills with them so flipping the recruiting and interview process on its head and getting really smart about what kinds of behavioral questions can be asked in an interview to help staff understand that the person has these sorts of intangible things that the City needs. She noted it is a little more comprehensive than the compensation study. She indicated one important thing to understand is Abdo is including all of the City's collective bargained employees in the study because the City needs to know where the market is at for those employees and those employees need to be scored with accurate job descriptions. She wanted the Council to understand that when Abdo recommends a compensation model those employees will not be included so it would be the non-organized employees that will be included in that model, but the City will have good information going into negotiations with all of the unions. Ms. Davis continued the presentation on Project Process and Methodology and Comparable Municipalities. She asked for feedback on these areas of the presentation. Councilmember Etten asked if there is a pre-started list of the comparable cities. Ms. Davis explained she has pulled down some information and is working on finalizing it. She indicated Ms. Olson has been getting input from union