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170 <br />171 Mr. Freihammer indicated that was correct. The City usually gets a lot more <br />172 requests than what staff can move around the city and as staff has learned that is <br />173 done by avolunteer and does affect the variability. He noted there is one permanent <br />174 one on County Road B but the one advantage to moving them is that people get <br />175 used to them and ignore them, so it usually is good to rotate them with construction <br />176 projects for cut -through traffic in neighborhoods. <br />177 <br />178 Member Mueller indicated when she has reached out to the County before <br />179 regarding the lack or visibility of speed limit signs on County Road B, as an <br />180 example, she has been told that there are limitations with the number and type of <br />181 signs that can be posted and that there has to be certain rights -of -way or distances <br />182 or whatever and different sign types. She asked if that was accurate and something <br />183 the City needed to consider for Roseville roads. , <br />184 <br />185 Mr. Freihammer explained only so many signs can be put up. The City's policy is <br />186 to make sure there is one speed limit sign every half or quarter mile or some sort of <br />187 stop intersection. He was not sure what the County's policy is, but speed limit signs <br />188 cannot be placed close together. <br />189 <br />190 Mr. John Kysylyczyn, 3083 Victoria Street, provided background information on <br />191 the history of his political career and indicated he has taken an interest in this <br />192 subject. He explained he was opposed to the efforts to adjust the speed limits in the <br />193 city because he thought it was a complete waste of time and money. He pointed out <br />194 that he has noticed there is no ticket data There is data as to the traffic stops, but <br />195 there is no data as to how many speeding tickets have been written and for what <br />196 speeds they have been written for. St. Paul disbanded its traffic unit so the idea that <br />197 the City will have more officers focusing on traffic is false and is actually going in <br />198 the opposite direction. Roseville has done local enforcement and the outcome of <br />199 the local enforcement efforts back twenty years ago was that the tickets and the <br />200 people that were being stopped were the people that lived in the neighborhood. <br />201 There is this rabbit hole he encouraged the Commission not to go down, which is <br />202 that slower driving leads to less injury. The problem is not the speed, the problem <br />203 is the distracted driving, the people that are reading their cellphones while driving <br />204 down the road and talking on the phone while driving down the road. That is where <br />205 the real problem lies. He would caution the Commission on studying data on what <br />206 other cities have done because some cities make decisions that are politically <br />207 driven, and some cities make decisions that are statistically driven. The cities of <br />208 Brooklyn Park and Minneapolis are political party -endorsed where a lot of their <br />209 decisions are based on politics. Shoreview, on the other hand, is not a political <br />210 party -endorsed city and often times a lot of decisions made there are based on <br />211 statistics. Another thing he wanted to raise caution about is passing laws that no <br />212 one follows. That is the scientific versus politics. When you pass laws that no one <br />213 follows people have atendency of not respecting other laws. Another thing to point <br />214 out is perhaps Roseville should stop paving local side streets that are four car lanes <br />215 wide. Perhaps for the next reconstruction phase, quit paving four lane -wide local <br />Page 5 of 7 <br />Page 7 of 29 <br />
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