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Attachment 4 one also cleared up relative effects. Only the ones that the City has had that are right smack dab adjacent to residential that we may get concerned about. Saint Rose of Lima, when that first went up, there were a lot of questions on it, but they could address it immediately once staff received a call. Member Pribyl thanked Mr. Paschke for the information. She asked if there was any other discussion on this item or if a motion could be made. Member McGehee thought the Commission would want to amend whatever they do to be 35 feet on top instead of 50. Member Aspnes appreciated the member of the public coming in and talking about the light pollution. Comparing the static signs to these dynamic signs are apples and oranges in terms of how the light works and how far it spreads away from that because The Commission has no data on how we are making things better. We wondered if this would worsen things or if the status quo would. If, by making them dynamic, was it not increasing the light these are giving off? She indicated she did not know the answer to that today, which concerned her slightly. Member McGehee explained that one possibility would be to make a motion to table this and find some more information to pass on to the Council. That would be the only way to get the answers to those questions. If there was enough interest in doing that, she would make a motion to the table so that we could get information on this. Member Aspnes asked if that information was available and could be obtained. She thought that even if it's a perception, the human eye's perception of, was this as bright as this? Are these bright, glowing the same, or are they? Was one more colorful than the other? Member McGehee indicated. Theoretically, one could do that by measuring the candles, which you must do by hand on the various signs, and calculating the static sign. She thought, based on what Clear Channel has said, there would have to be a measurement from above and each side and in the front, and then that's the only comparison that she could see, but that could indeed be done, but she did not know that anybody's done it. Ms. Gundlach explained she did not know the science behind how much lighter the static would be compared to the dynamic one. The City could go and measure, but all the billboards are adjacent to freeways. Foot candles are taking into effect all of the surrounding lights, so she was not sure that that's a fair representation either of what you're trying to get at because the foot candles are going to capture all of the light where you're standing with that light meter, which could be the freeway lights. It could be lights anywhere, not just coming from the billboard. Qbhf!99!pg!363