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plan. Dave Seaberg, 3194 Fairview Avenue, explained that "doing nothing" provides taxes. With this project, city services will cost the city. Big box does not leave funds in Roseville. Dan Roe responded to the zoning issue and permits. Tam McGehee said she would have asked for other developers. There were no further comments. Chair Mulder closed the hearing. Member Pust asked for details of the State water quality rules being prepared by PCA for 2005. Chair Mulder explained the rules that are now being considered, but not adopted at this time. Member Bakeman congratulated Carol Erickson for 25-27 years of work around Langton Lake. Member Doherty asked for details of clean up of contaminated sites. Member Bakeman expressed concerns about transportation/transit plans on the site. What are the plans to move within the site? Will senior sites have bus transit or will apartments have transit? Duane Schwartz explained that more transit (Metro Transit and Roseville Circulator) may expand into the area. Member Pust asked for AUAR traffic - how do these compare through 2020? What analysis or solutions have been discussed to reduce traffic in the neighborhood? Chair Mulder noted that the city, State and County do look at traffic in the future. Duane Schwartz explained the ongoing process. Member Pust asked if traffic study solutions should be intensified. Duane Schwartz explained other traffic issues in the community which are also of concern; Twin Lakes is not alone. Member Doherty asked for comparison of Cleveland Avenue vs. County Road B. Member Boerigter asked for details of the "round-abouts"; the entry speed will reduce to 15 miles per hour. Member Pust asked for details of the shoreland ordinance impacts on this project. There will be strict compliance with State and Federal rules and regulations. Should the project be in agreement with regulations before the Planning Commission makes a recommendation? Chair Mulder explained the review process with the Council and developer. Member Boerigter asked for height and zoning information comparing the 1-1 requirement (and in the AUAR) and B-6 zones. Member Pust asked for road widths (six lanes versus four lanes versus two lanes). She asked if underground parking was feasible (under housing and office buildings). John Johanson explained main street buildings will have under ground parking used by offices on the second story. Mr. Johanson explained that ramps are not conducive to mass merchandisers; they are too costly. Member Pust asked for Phase 2 and Phase 3 clarification. What/how are the impacts handled? Member Bakeman explained the need for LEED. Chair Mulder explained the process for making and voting on the possible motions. Using the PUD process has been more effective in managing the projects. Concept plans are "concepts" not all the details. The Planning Commission does not control the finance issues, but may be necessary for clean up of the site. The 2001 land use plans included a hospital, which did not occur. What is the next best plan? Chairman Mulder said the environmental issues are a concern and must be cleaned up before new development occurs; not willing to retain truck terminals. The traffic issue is a concern metro-wide; businesses move where there is housing density. If the city does not take the opportunities, the existing retail could move. "Doing nothing" is moving backward. He urged moving this proposed concept forward. Member Pust explained that the process has worked. Citizens have made their input. She explained the financing is the council's decision. Member Pust congratulated the developers for continually working with and changing/upgrading the plan. Environment conditions should be consistent with regulations, protecting shore and trails. Traffic should address the issues and a transportation plan is necessary as a condition. LEED standards will urge developers to the best standards. Member Bakeman congratulated all participants. More traffic studies are needed (all over the city). She is concerned about the environment but flexible within a PUD. The senior housing is a concern. Roseville is getting